11:01:32 From Liliane Mavridara : Happy Tuesday everyone! 11:07:31 From Diane Skidmore : As usual - an elegant introduction to the day - A New Consciousness is Needed. Thank you Jim :) 11:09:14 From Michelle Kidd : Looking to hearing from you and seeing your Wonderful smile Eduard 11:09:20 From Diane Skidmore : And - hello people - another happy day greeting xxx 11:11:02 From Diane Skidmore : Hooraaaaay Ed. Yes. Grrrrr to G.. :D hahaha - smiling is better xxx 11:11:40 From Diane Skidmore : Today we have rockets!! Yaaaay!!! 11:11:50 From Stanley Pokras Pokras To All Panelists : I'm looking for other people who are saving the chats. I'm doing that each day, but would like to have alternatives to share the task. stan@communitymagic.org 11:12:45 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : I love that: Grrr to G. D. Allelujah! 11:12:57 From Michelle Kidd : Does anyone know who the pannelistare please. Can their names be put on screen please Jim 11:13:11 From Amanda Janoo : Thank you Maureen! 11:13:55 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : I'm looking for other people who are saving the chats. I'm doing that each day, but would like to have alternatives to share the task. stan@communitymagic.org 11:14:39 From Diane Skidmore : Amanda Janoo, Co-Convener, WeAll and Katherine Trebeck, Co-Convener, WeGov 11:14:58 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : I believe they still are.....! 11:15:41 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : Absolutely....!!!!! 11:15:45 From Diane Skidmore : @Michelle - go to HR page on line and you can see details of each day 11:15:55 From Amanda Janoo : Hi everyone, please feel free to type in any questions here or in the Q&A box and I’ll gather them so we can discuss them after Katherine’s presentation :) 11:16:01 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Stan: I have photos of 90%. thinking of deleting them as as record otherwise. I think I can send them to you via WhatsApp, too heavy for email 11:16:21 From Jane : Yup, Katherine, this is it....the time for change is NOW. 11:16:56 From Liliane Mavridara : @Stanley, if you want to use the chats or other, outside HR, perhaps contact Richard off line and arrange for that. 11:17:03 From Michelle Kidd : Thanks Diane 💓 11:17:10 From Diane Skidmore : @Michelle - details of past and present recordings 11:17:25 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Yep! time to put up or shut up ....die! 11:18:42 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : the new BC, BC II 11:19:05 From Diane Skidmore : Ahaaa - good analogy - salt. We need a sprinkle but - too much is terrible! 11:19:27 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Liliane - I don't have a direct way to correspond with Richard. Can you or he send me an email address? Thank you. 11:19:39 From Leo Jacoby : 1: Diminishing marginal returns 11:19:41 From Liliane Mavridara : Via Ubiverse 11:20:17 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : I don't know how to navigate Ubiverse 11:20:25 From Diane Skidmore : Thank goodness - it all tails off - used to think about 'growth' (many moons ago) "We can't keep growing - getting fatter and fatter!!. Aaaagh!" 11:21:28 From Leo Jacoby : 2: Failure demand 11:22:38 From Roslyn Scheuerman Scheuerman : Katherine's comprehensive explanation is fascinating, what most of us we already know but also goes much deeper in the connectivity of all societal structure. 11:23:16 From Jane : Stanley, log into ubiverse and sign up for your own account....very easy process thank goodness. 11:23:30 From Diane Skidmore : Amazing. Had a conversation this morning - a request for 'Five most important suggestions for a way forward?' We gave one - Every person take responsibility for each move!! 11:24:06 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Jane - done that, it's still confusing. 11:24:49 From Leo Jacoby : 3: Pseudo satisfiers 11:25:04 From Diane Skidmore : Gosh, thank goodness I'm not part of 'the real world' hahaha 11:25:36 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : in Costa Rica there is a “rent a cop” system because the police are often not trusted. I have never understood why rent a cops carry huge rifles for the 5 and 10 store. Can you get shot for stealing the $1 item? 11:26:05 From Liliane Mavridara : @Katherine, have lived in Scotland and Glasgow. I know what you are talking about. 11:26:07 From Amanda Janoo : Hi Elizabeth, its Manfred Max-Need 11:26:18 From Amanda Janoo : Keep track of the rest of your larger questions for discussion later :) 11:27:21 From Diane Skidmore : hahaha - sent the Costa Rica talk (from Edouard) to a political person in Glasgow this very morning!! Yaaaay!! 11:27:51 From Jane : Stanley, so you entered your email and then clicked on sign up, correct? 11:29:00 From Diane Skidmore : How do we share wellbeing!! That's more like it xxx 11:29:00 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Jane - can you help me with this off the main chat? Stan@communitymagic.org 11:30:34 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Jane - I've been able to register my organization, OtherNetworks.org as a Humanity Rising partner. 11:30:43 From Jane : o.k. Stan will email you when this mornings session is finished. 11:30:55 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Thank you!!!! 11:31:31 From Liliane Mavridara : @Jane, thank you for helping out. 11:32:03 From Diane Skidmore : Oooooh fairness and dignity - sounds magnificent!!! 11:32:14 From Jane : no problem....thanks to you for taking on the daily task of saving everything. 11:33:59 From Kurt Krueger : Whats the link to the speah? PLEASE. 11:35:43 From Jane : Bhutan,My favourite spot on the planet...they have been so progressive. 11:35:58 From gary wohlman : https://youtu.be/8e0LAoevn8U Robert Kennedy's speech at Vanderbilt's 1968 Impact Symposium 11:36:25 From Diane Skidmore : And - this afternoon - talking about Bhutan with Mongolian neighbour - phew 11:36:37 From Amanda Janoo : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77IdKFqXbUY 11:36:52 From Amanda Janoo : Here’s the Kennedy speech excerpt on GDP 11:36:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Gary - thanks! 11:36:58 From Diane Skidmore : Thanks Gary - looked it up but there are two or three speeches! 11:37:02 From Jane : Costa rica and Bhutan have served as amazing models for the way forward. 11:37:14 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Amanda Thanks! 11:37:43 From Diane Skidmore : And thanks @amanda too 11:38:48 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : this is all so great! Clearly, this discussion will not be long enough. I would love to have Katherine back again. 11:38:59 From Michelle Kidd : Wonderful presentation thank you Katherine 💓 11:39:13 From Jane : Agree V.ictoria 11:39:58 From gary wohlman : https://youtu.be/1fArgCaFb1c Bobby Kennedy's Speech for Humanity - Bobby Kennedy's Day of Affirmation speech set to the soundtrack of the Social Network & Gladiator. The Day of Affirmation speech was a speech given by Robert F. Kennedy to National Union of South African Students members at the University of Cape Town, South Africa, on June 6, 1966. Kennedy, who was then a U.S. Senator from New York, gave the speech two years before his 1968 presidential campaign, which came to an end when Kennedy was assassinated on June 5, 1968 in Los Angeles. Considered to be one of his greatest speeches, the Day of Affirmation Address, coupled with Ted Kennedy's eulogy for Bobby, offer precious words of wisdom decades after their initial utterance. 11:40:00 From Liliane Mavridara : @Katherine, brilliant timeline, thank you. 11:40:01 From Leo Jacoby : Some way markers (there are loads more!) • 1968 Robert Kennedy speech • 1972 Club of Rome publishes The Limits to Growth • 1972 Bhutan King declares GNH more important than GDP • 2008 GFC • 2009 Stiglitz, Sen, Fitoussi report for President Sarkozy • 2012 UN report on a New Development paradigm • 2015 SDGs agreed • 2018 OECD Group on Measurement of Economic Performance & Social Progress • 2018 WEAII & WEGo launched • 2018+ young come out of school & stand up for their future • 2019 200+ academics call on the EU to dethrone 'king GDP' and crown 'queen welbeing' in a Sustainability & Wellbeing Pact 2019 NZ launches the first Wellneing Budget 11:40:02 From Diane Skidmore : Bhutan banned plastic bags in 1999!! 11:40:03 From Leo Jacoby : …. 11:40:19 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Where is the money? Here is a display of All of the World’s Money and Markets in One Visualization https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization-2020/ 11:40:30 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : hm? ROBERT, I think this needs to be corrected to John 11:40:49 From Jane : Right on Katherine! 11:41:16 From Yasmina Groenstein : @LeoJakovy -Thank you! :) 11:41:27 From Jane : Love the specifics ...thanks for this Katherine. 11:42:04 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Stan - not sure that link works…. 11:42:13 From Leo Jacoby : From relying on fixing, healing & redistributing to getting it right in the first place 11:42:16 From Diane Skidmore : Wonderful. We CANNOT keep growing. This is sooo good!! 11:42:35 From Jane : and changes in consciousness 11:42:51 From Kurt Krueger : The growing issue is POPULATION! 11:43:09 From Nirmalan Dhas : All that is required is a REDEFINITION of GROWTH 11:43:10 From Diane Skidmore : Totally - all hands on deck!! Really quickly too - each individual person be responsible!! 11:43:18 From Jane : personal consciousness right up to those in positions of leadership. 11:43:23 From Leo Jacoby : Macro-level (landscape) Meso-level (regimes) Micro-level (niches) 11:43:35 From Diane Skidmore : @Jane Well said xxx 11:43:37 From Michelle Kidd : YES. YES. YES Keep Calm and Set New Goals 👍👍👍 11:43:41 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Full cost accounting - ha working on that for a LONGGGKGGG time 11:44:02 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Kathryn - that's odd, I just clicked on it and it worked. 11:44:14 From Jane : I hear you Kathryn. 11:44:53 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Stan - sorry it did work after I put that up… 11:45:14 From Diane Skidmore : Feels like it's non-economic activities that have kept us going through the last events 11:45:21 From Shannon McArthur : Neighbours working together on growing food for their families, friends, and suppliers - take our power into our own hands 11:45:24 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Hazel Henderson brought that years ago! 11:45:28 From Leo Jacoby : "Getting the economy to do mo re of the heavy lifting Via predistribution, foundational economy, full cost accounting, etc. " 11:45:53 From Diane Skidmore : @Shannon yes 11:46:26 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : @Kathryn - here is where the link I posted came from: http://money.visualcapitalist.com/category/all/ 11:46:28 From Jane : Thanks for theses examples Katherine. 11:46:58 From Diane Skidmore : Grrrr housing greed - old way. co-housing - great - share the washing machine 11:47:41 From Amanda Janoo : Here is a full list of the old way vs. new way: https://wellbeingeconomy.org/oldwaynewway 11:47:49 From Diane Skidmore : All these positive changes in one package - AMAZING!! 11:47:50 From Amanda Janoo : Have a look and contribute your ideas! 11:48:00 From Michelle Kidd : I live in Social housing the Energy Efficiency is 62%. I am discussing this theme with my Local Housing Authority 11:48:01 From Kurt Krueger : DO YOU HAVE A LETTER OF INTORODUCTION FOR THIS IDEA? TO USE AS A MODEL FOR COMMUNICATING WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS/BUSINESS PEOPLE, ETC? 11:48:07 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : we could have a week with Katherine and Marilyn, so much here! 11:48:10 From Jane : getting closer and closer to robotics replacing humanity. 11:48:36 From Marilyn Hamilton : @Victoria - I would love to spend week with Kathering 11:49:08 From Leo Jacoby : Homes & housing From: • Uninsulated & energy inefficient • Rationed by price • Used as investment devices by rentiers TO... Work, in-work poverty & earnings From: • In-work tax credits • Large gaps between highest & lowest paid • Specialization & atomization • Workers 'just in time inventory' & a cost to be reduced TO: • Workers treated as human beings • Purposeful jobs, tasks shared, autonomy devolved, scope to follow through • Work shared = equality & time for other activities • Workers owning the business = share of value they create • Wages better reflect social value + lower ratio between highest & lowest paid 11:49:13 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : I’ll vote for that and add Rieke Coron 11:49:20 From Jane : Agree Victoria 11:49:41 From Jane : Let in the light... 11:49:50 From Diane Skidmore : @Marilyn - can you arrange it? would it be an idea for Jim and Edouard to help? And Rieke hahaha 11:50:01 From Kurt Krueger : How about memes to get the point across in Social Media? Little prompts - pointing a new way… 11:50:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Leo - thank you!!!! 11:50:08 From Leo Jacoby : Mindsets From: • There is no alternative to business as usual To: • Thousands of alternatives exist • It's in our power to design economies differently • Economies should have human & environmental wellbeing as their goal 11:50:35 From Jane : Islay? 11:50:46 From Nirmalan Dhas : A lot of this sounds as though it is coming from another world….it is NOT the reality here 11:50:53 From Diane Skidmore : Amazing again!!! Gosh!!! Washing machines and swimming pool - shared!!! 11:51:41 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : industrial ecologies require lots of per planning to be efficient 11:52:01 From Diane Skidmore : @nirmalan - no it's not here either but - seeds of improvement - have to start somewhere. We just need to share the ideas 11:52:03 From Marilyn Hamilton : @Di - yes I will talk to Jim and Eduard - Rieke, Katherine, Marilyn ... and we didn't get to hear yday from Kristian and common good - probably another fit??? 11:52:27 From Jane : Hear you Nirmalan....perhaps theses examples are simply a couple of examples of what can be achieved. 11:52:36 From Leo Jacoby : CORE ELEMENTS We all need... CONNECTION A sense of belonginq and institutions that serve the common good We all need... FAIRNESS Justice in all its dimensions at the heart of economic systems, and the gap between the richest and poorest greatly reduced We all need... PARTICIPATION Citizens are actively engaged in their communitites and locally rooted economies We all need... NATURE A restored and safe natural world for life We all need... DIGNITY Everyone his enough to live in comfort, safety and happiness 11:53:06 From Diane Skidmore : Gosh - tears - we really WILL make a difference. Laughter as well 'a lot of women' hahaha 11:53:11 From Jane : "chink of light" 11:53:47 From Diane Skidmore : @Jane - a whole beam here :D 11:54:17 From Diane Skidmore : Collaboration. Yes, we'll do it together!! 11:54:24 From Jane : YES Diane the beam is here too! 11:55:00 From Diane Skidmore : Oh gosh LOVE LOVE LOVE!!! 11:56:26 From Beth Brownfield : Leo thank you for the notes! What is the link to WEGO? 11:56:54 From Marilyn Hamilton : https://wellbeingeconomy.org/scotland 11:56:56 From Diane Skidmore : Gosh Georg - could we have this talk please? We can shower our governments with REAL STUFF!! 11:56:58 From Amanda Janoo : https://wellbeingeconomy.org/ 11:57:12 From Kurt Krueger : Yes. "You and I are also news stations. You and I are also reporting on what’s going on in the world. Like the TV executives behind the scenes, we also get to decide what stories to tell — even on the street when a friend asks us how we’re doing. That is our moment of truth. That is our broadcast. That is our time to choose. "Will our stories be local versions of the nightly news, always skewed to what’s bad and wrong, full of gossip, worry, and complaint? Or will we choose to share a new kind of story — one infused with possibility, progress, insight, awareness, and hope?" ~ Mitch Ditkoff What say you? How are you broadcasting your “news”? 11:57:16 From MALINI Rajendran : @nirmalan.agree we need to work from an acceptance that many different worlds exist within a country, within a business environment and within the socioeconomic structure of a country. a solution needs to be customised to meet the needs and challenges of each of these micro world's within the outer larger world of a country. 11:57:53 From Leo Jacoby : Economic System Change • Narrative and Knowledge (roots) feeding the Power Base (trunk) 11:57:55 From Larry : Does anyone know how to get this to AOC? 11:58:04 From Jane : Yes Katherine...round up whoever is 'on side' and leave the other s behind, and move forward. 11:58:11 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : going against the system came up yesterday too. how many lonely innovators are out there who need support? 11:58:26 From Diane Skidmore : @Kurt - every time I open my mouth, I spread the word. Loads of emails too 11:58:37 From Diane Skidmore : We're living the change!!! 11:59:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Changing the economy could be accomplished by taxing the transactions of derivatives. That's where the money is. See the bottom layer of this graphic: https://i0.wp.com/money.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/allthemoneyz-2017-prev.png?resize=440%2C281 11:59:07 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Kurt - nice 11:59:15 From Jane : PLUS FUN....Bonus! 11:59:46 From Giovanni Scotto : Thank you KAtherine !! 11:59:46 From Jane : So refreshing! thank you Katherine. 11:59:51 From Carlos Prosser : S hiny Katherine, precise and funny 11:59:56 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : lots and lots and lots of applause!!! 12:00:06 From Diane Skidmore : Thank you Katherine. That was great!! 12:00:09 From Paul Coleman : Excellent/ Thank you Katherine 12:00:20 From Yasmina Groenstein : @Katherine thank you! inspiring yes! need to leave :( 12:00:36 From Marilyn Hamilton : @katherinetrebeck - inspiring presentation - would love to connect marilyn@integralcity.com 12:00:46 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : Katherine, you are brilliant and quite wonderul! Thanlk you! 12:01:05 From Yasmina Groenstein : 🙏❤ to all and each of you beautiful ones! 12:01:24 From Roslyn Scheuerman Scheuerman : Katherine reminds me so much of Elizabeth Kucinich, former US Congressman Dennis Kucinich's wife from the UK. Are they related? 12:01:50 From Jane : Yes good question....why didn't it spread? 12:01:55 From Leo Jacoby : Never forget. setbacks are merely temporary... EQUALITY (racial, women, disability, gay, et al) ACCEPTABLE OFFENSIVE ILLEGAL RIDICULOUS UNIMAGINABLE 12:02:27 From Carlos Prosser : We hate Chicago Boys experiment in our country, a big failure. 12:02:59 From Paul Coleman : Chile is only now coming to deal with the coup and the neo liberalism that followed. hence ast years huge civil movement. 12:03:24 From Diane Skidmore : Wow!! Just remove the government altogether - that's really radical!!! Brill!! 12:03:37 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : and look what happened to him! so many fear, correctly, being on the edge. I think a basic goal would be to support those people on the edge 12:03:59 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Tickle-down HA! 12:05:28 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Here's a great explanation of how the economy and the US government were hijacked: The book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy is Ben G. Price's "How Wealth Rules the World" 12:06:06 From Carlos Prosser : sooner than later we will finish dismantling the infamous experiment carried out with the complicity and corruption of the dictator thief Pinochet. The logic of abuse with nature, indigenous peoples and the people went too far 12:07:00 From Paul Coleman : @Carlos: Yes. In deed. 12:08:57 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Ed: I HOPE only is losing, not lost its democracy. Vamos a ver! 12:09:27 From MALINI Rajendran : 1.an alternate economy that will value the skills talents and needs of its local populations. 2. An alternate economy that will ensure everyone's basic needs in the community are met. food, clothing, a house with basic amenities. 3. An alternate economy that ensures every citizen is gainfully or meaningfully employed. 4. An alternate economy that does not treat education, healthcare, spiritual growth and happiness as a moneymaking business and mulch cow. Any one up for the challenge to rock the boat. let's do one small community, town, village , at a time. the sum of the parts will always be greater than the whole. 12:10:30 From Jane : Love that Malini! 12:11:52 From Jane : Yes Bhutan was alone at first when they implemented. 12:11:54 From Diane Skidmore : Amazing Malini! A package. wonderful 12:13:05 From Jane : And every step that Bhtuan took was very gradual and measured. 12:13:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : WOW not see the benefits in our terms…. THAT is service! 12:14:14 From Liliane Mavridara : @Katherine, yes, it is about taking care what is presenting while educating/reframing/re-aligning the causes that lead i.e. to mental health, which is so multi-layered. 12:14:18 From Diane Skidmore : @Malini? Rock the boat one small community at a time or maybe one person at a time? Teaching that every person is able to make change - take responsibility for every move they make. Change will happen. One step at a time. 12:14:45 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Yes, I was thinking the environment should be in the center 12:15:56 From Jane : Yes,support these postive initiatives. 12:16:24 From MALINI Rajendran : Jim would it be possible to have someone a local person from Bhutan make a presentation about what they are doing there. 12:16:48 From Jane : Yes would love that Malini. 12:18:32 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Who is creating the INDEX or directory of global wellbeing organizations? 12:18:49 From Diane Skidmore : Gosh!! A Wellbeing Economy Design Guide book - sooo much is going on in the world - imagine all the people who know nothing of all this. So important these conversations - so big to share them!! 12:18:53 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Part of that is ensuring that individual people have a sense of purpose - something other than shopping. 12:19:04 From Leo Jacoby : SOME LINKS TO EDUARD https://www.eduardmuller.com/ http://fieldguide.capitalinstitute.org/eduard-muller-biodiversity-extinction.html https://issuu.com/lmfrolich/docs/13-chapter_13.docx Regenerative development as natural solution for ... http://www.unesco.org/new/en/natural-sciences/environment/ecological-sciences/4th-world-congress/workshops-and-side-events/workshops/governance-workshop/ https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=112366057108156&story_fbid=140858934258868 https://www.dearwise.earth/blog/thepathahead 12:19:26 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Oh Leo - Thank YOU!! 12:19:30 From MALINI Rajendran : @stan. Good question. also what are the index parameters and who's perspective is driving it. 12:19:46 From Jane : Right, so important to Listen. 12:20:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Partnership ! 12:20:38 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : I correspond wth Anthony Judge who for many years has edited the Encyclopedia Of World Problems. Now we need a well indexed encyclopedia of world solutions. 12:21:05 From Jane : Yes and education. 12:21:06 From Diane Skidmore : @Stanley Yes!!! 12:21:40 From Jane : you got it Eduard. 12:21:47 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Stanley Yes! There’s your next challenge. Humanity Rising gives you a real head start! 12:22:01 From Kurt Krueger : Stories/Plays, get to the most in manful ways. Cooperation, collaboration, 12:22:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : There was a presenter earlier that is also working on that. 12:22:17 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : How to persuade people to collaberate? 12:22:24 From Liliane Mavridara : @Ed, @Amanda, how can we, as individuals who have the interdisciplinary knowledge and experience join you, in this reform of consciousness and forward planning? 12:22:38 From Jane : Especially those in education that are in positions of leadership and or power. 12:22:38 From Diane Skidmore : Phew!! So - a programme that goes out on Netflix and the BBC and loads of international news stations 12:22:49 From Kurt Krueger : There are Living Values: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace. All the other Values are generated from these. Developing quality Character traits is vitally important for all levels of society. When will this be emphasized? There is one program, http://LivingValues.net that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results! An awesomely effective PARENTING book is: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect by Diane Tillman. 12:23:05 From Nirmalan Dhas : I think it will be very interesting to ask people at the bottom most layer of the civilizational pyramid how they want to spend their lives, We could then figure out what they would need to be able to live the lives they wish to live and we could then find ways to see that they have access to the various types of resources that they will require to live the lives they want to… 12:23:42 From Kurt Krueger : All parents teach their children to be peaceful, yet all the children see on media is violence… etc. 12:24:25 From MALINI Rajendran : @nirmalan. unfortunately much that I worked against it. Maslow's hierarchy always fits. 12:24:28 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Katherine - working with Kate Raworth? 12:25:03 From Amanda Janoo : Hi Kathryn, yes! Kate Raworth is also one of WEALL’s ambassadors and original founders :) 12:25:07 From Jane : Yes Kurt. Have trained with dianne T. and brought L.V. to a number of countries but it couldn't be sustained oor introduced because of those in positions of ledership. 12:25:23 From Jane : leadership 12:25:26 From Carlos Prosser : In recent years there has been a dictatorship of the idea that "you must grow, that growth is the solution." We need to unlearn that gigantic mistake and learn from these 3 new visions of well being and regenerative donut economics 12:25:53 From Paul Coleman : The education is backward. The university is the elementary school where simplicity opens eyes and minds. University is the place where complexity comes in and boxes are built. 12:26:13 From Kurt Krueger : History classes can have a more improved, supportive focus rather than supporting the elite ideas of Separation and control, rather than collaboration and cooperation. 12:26:22 From Leo Jacoby : University departments as silos 12:26:27 From Liliane Mavridara : @Eduard, the unlearning I believe can also be supported via mentorship so that the new can be supported and enhanced. 12:26:45 From Jane : So it is not always about introducing a particular programme but more abour changing the 'consciousness. 12:26:55 From Jane : about 12:26:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Eduard YES the silos…creating courses that integrate. I did that using entreprenuresip 12:27:11 From Diane Skidmore : @Edouard - that's why we're building an alternative way of living - it isn't easy!! 12:27:30 From MALINI Rajendran : vertical curriculum needs to be made operational. yes it will mean retracing the teachers and educators. but it's easy to do. and anyone wanting to have my charts, lesson plans, and concepts. but it will be primarily local systems and needs based. 12:27:40 From Diane Skidmore : And thank you - include spiritual 12:27:43 From Kurt Krueger : History includes and should express the ideals of all life. Look to the heart of all matters. 12:28:02 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Throw away university economics and look to a physician to examine how money works: The author, Jacques S. Jaikaran, M.D. offers a very good defense of Modern Monetary Theory in his book "Debt Virus." See page 168, where the author states plainly that "What we need to solve our cyclical problems such as inflation and recession is a metered amount of debt-free money injected into the economy. This money will compensate for the continuous withdrawal of money from the economy by the private sector debt service on its borrowings." 12:28:41 From Shannon McArthur : @Stan - that could be SEEDS, right? 12:28:41 From Beth Brownfield : what is link to WEALL? 12:29:03 From Paul Coleman : https://wellbeingeconomy.org/ 12:30:08 From Marilyn Hamilton : @amanda - love the idea of catalysing self-organizing emergence with WEALL 12:30:56 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Dear Chat PEOPLE, panelists, too Humanity Rising is better every day! Wonderful: Wellbeing!!!... Please join us. Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting 30 minutes after this session closes. Please write to me if you would like to participate (even if you can't join us today) I have also created an email list for us to interact without being on at the same time. stan@communitymagic.org 12:30:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : YES visioning! 12:31:23 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Amanda: beautiful, thank you! 12:31:30 From Amanda Janoo : https://wellbeing-economy-alliance-trust.hivebrite.com/ 12:31:43 From Amanda Janoo : Here is the we all citizens platform 12:31:45 From Leo Jacoby : Vision related to a region -- where people belong 12:31:45 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Marilyn - visioning with a city. I’ve been struggling to get the neighborhoods to vision.... 12:32:55 From Amanda Janoo : Here is a link to becoming a member: https://wellbeingeconomy.org/weall-members 12:33:21 From L M : Change the term “silos” to “trees”; inanimate to animate. Trees communicate underground with each other, silos not so much... 12:33:36 From Shannon McArthur : that’s why they are silos 12:33:43 From Marilyn Hamilton : @Kathryn -- ah yes ... visioning is an iterative emergent process ... but many of the WEALL themes being discussed here - can be used to create "coupled" pathways to a vision ... eg. Economics & Environment ; Health & Community; Education & Culture (or any combinations) 12:33:44 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @LM :-) 12:33:58 From Amanda Janoo : Ooo, love that silos —> trees or… perhaps silos —> roots of a tree 12:34:01 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : Mr T does crisis very well... 12:34:25 From Carlos Prosser : In Chile right and center left they were complicit in the maintenance of the neoliberal model and the most important universities surrendered to that logic and still teach with the dogma of growth and no environmental and social limits for the concentration of wealth 12:34:28 From Amanda Janoo : Here is the link if you’re interested in starting a hub a WEALL hub: https://wellbeingeconomy.org/hub-guide 12:34:29 From L M : Silo is a term created by economics to dehumanize. 12:34:37 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Marilyn - food for our coming conversation. 12:34:44 From Kurt Krueger : Do you have memes or other communication images to get the point across in Social Media? Little prompts - pointing a new way… Education for the “digitals.” 12:34:54 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Neoliberal = ultra conservative. The terms is intentionally misleading. It has NOTHING to do with Liberal politics. 12:35:37 From Liliane Mavridara : @Jim, thank you for saying this. 12:36:02 From MALINI Rajendran : That's why wars, riots and now biological warfare were started. but this time round, the comming together and meeting of like-minded hearts and minds has happend on an unprecedented level , like never before. thank you social distancing. 12:36:10 From Jane : And russia. 12:36:31 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : Yes, Jim and that is what is so very concerning! 12:36:35 From Kurt Krueger : Man without vision shall perish. Keep the VISION - focusing on what we want and we get to the moon! OR a Regenerative planet in a Loving Society. :) 12:36:59 From Jane : along with U.s and China 12:37:42 From Leo Jacoby : https://www.yesmagazine.org/video/coronavirus-naomi-klein/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqNAEx1lm4 https://twitter.com/naomiaklein?lang=en 12:38:00 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : Yes, Jim!!!! 12:38:14 From Jane : For sure Jim...real threat is to Democracy 12:38:19 From Gabriela Valenzuela-Hirsch : Thank you Jim….for this words! 12:38:19 From Diane Skidmore : So - it feels like the way to spread new ideas is - on the street. aim for street level so as to include ALL people!! We need to spread the beams of light across all people - ordinary people!! 12:38:42 From Amanda Janoo : Any major burning final questions? 12:39:17 From Jane : The 'Path Less traveled" is the way. 12:39:27 From Diane Skidmore : So, even if the 'powers that be' try to annihilate the brave - the ordinary people will already have been given the light!! 12:39:34 From Leo Jacoby : "You make the path by walking." Friere (but what if path is overgrown or wrong path?) 12:40:15 From Kurt Krueger : Prime Minister of Bhutan gave an outstanding TedTalk. Check it out. 12:40:23 From MALINI Rajendran : Democracy is itself a threat when it's about electing a leader which is often based on false information and manipulated opinions. what democracy needs is electing what's good of the whole. 12:40:37 From Jude Asphar : some examples of the embedded patriarchal model that goes almost unnoticed and is a crucial piece of the present and future puzzle that needs more immediate recognition — https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/jul/24/uk-working-mothers-are-sacrifical-lambs-in-coronavirus-childcare-crisis https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2020/jun/18/uk-society-regressing-back-to-1950s-for-many-women-warn-experts-worsening-inequality-lockdown-childcare https://www.eppingforestguardian.co.uk/news/national-news/18606521.half-working-mothers-lacking-childcare-covid-19-crisis---survey/ Australia https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jul/19/disastrous-new-lockdown-means-some-melbourne-childcare-centres-could-shut-in-weeks https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jul/26/australias-childcare-centres-struggle-to-pay-up-to-9000-for-covid-19-cleaning 12:40:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Leo - personal integrity and connection to Spirit are the answers. 12:40:40 From Jane : Amanda, Examples specifically on shifting the consciousness of Leaders in education. 12:42:01 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson : Here’s the link for a “politics of Truth” https://www.academia.edu/37301575/A_Humanistic_Approach_To_Politics_AHPs_Call_For_A_Politics_Of_Truth 12:42:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Malini - Yes I think we are seeing the limits of democracy. One big piece is that there was an inherent need to assume all players were of food intent. We are seeing how destructive it can be for one person to not play by the rules. 12:42:37 From Kurt Krueger : @AJ, I’d love to talk with you about instigating/expanding this exposure… :) 12:43:16 From Leo Jacoby : @Kathryn Alexander Thank you for your messages. 12:43:50 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Leo - thank you!!! 12:44:13 From Kurt Krueger : Enjoy Cooperative Games with your teams. If you would like some, I could help. :) 12:45:07 From Jude Asphar : and in Scotland — Dr. Suzanne Zeedyk is doing important work on behalf of children, women, families — the heart of the doughnut or the surrounding of the indigenous doughnut — what shapes one human being shapes society— and what shapes the brain in the first years of course is crucial…so this a piece that is pivotal to the big picture — and you are all amazing — Katherine, Amanda, Eduard — and you Jim — thank you from the deepest place — 12:45:31 From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz : Ed: Yes, What a truly powerful session. thank you all! 12:47:10 From Jane : Huge thanks to you all...panelists and participants in this wonderful tribe. 12:47:39 From Liliane Mavridara : @Jane, please connect with me on Ubiverse, I don't know your last name. Thank you. 12:48:02 From Diane Skidmore : We still need the pandemic as we're still putting forward ideas. The time has come yes. Now we need to share the ideas as far (and as fast) as we can. Then the changes that are in the air will have a direction. Our ideas here are amazing. Let's push them out to the world. 12:48:08 From Shannon McArthur : empowering the youth with hope is the only way to enable them to bounce forward. 12:48:19 From Shannon McArthur : Going forward there shall be Peace 12:48:40 From Shannon McArthur : Mother Earth gave me Her promise but it can only be true if You share it too 12:48:53 From CJ : I hear you @Ed! When I talk to my community about this new arising, the reawakening of the heart space and moving forward, they laugh and ask how is this going to benefit the community! What??? 12:49:04 From Teo John : We are consciously evolving as a collective and transforming our consciousness... 12:49:22 From MALINI Rajendran : Let's learn from nature. From the soil microbes to the grasses the herbs and the big tress every one has a place and value. that's what is needed. 12:49:27 From Diane Skidmore : Big thanks to the speakers and to Mother Nature herself and to all the people who listen and live the new way to the best of their ability 12:49:28 From Jane : Liliane, would love to connect after this today but have another meeting. will send you an email. 12:49:29 From L-J Cote : I agree Eduard, what is being cried out for now is hope as I have been seeing greater decent into hopelessness and anger. This has been uplifting Thank you all for providing that light and hope 12:49:33 From Doreen Tanenbaum : Thank you All for such a great presentation that I will pass on 12:49:57 From Shannon McArthur : let the Earth speak to you. She has been trying all your life… 12:50:22 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Shannon - Yes 12:50:32 From Jane : I hope so Jim. 12:50:49 From Doreen Tanenbaum : yes, Jim….I see the light also. 12:51:34 From Shannon McArthur : The bright lights we hear here are so very encouraging. Thank you Jim, for all you do and all you inspire - you sparkle REAL bright! 12:51:39 From L M : The momentum is building!! 12:51:47 From Diane Skidmore : Yes!!! Change is happening!! Isn't it wonderful!! 12:51:51 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : @Jim - Yes!!! 12:51:56 From Teo John : Thanks for all the sharing, reflection, and sensing into what want to emerge.... 12:52:21 From Jane : like the energizer bunny! 12:52:46 From Marilyn Hamilton : @KatherineTrebk and @Eduard - I agree making visible the emergence of the new systems and wellbeing capacities is vital work - it is part of the mycelial meshworks 12:52:50 From Shannon McArthur : It is not wrong to start a Bright and Beautiful New World from the SEEDS of a Ubiquity University. 12:52:56 From Shauna Evans : Thank You All for the blessing provided in this growing body of wisdom and compassionate cooperation 12:53:21 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : We need a categorized index to the resources brought forth by humanity rising. 12:53:44 From Shannon McArthur : yes, @Stan. It is your calling, I believe. 12:53:52 From Carlos Prosser : One single Planetary Network 12:54:26 From Doreen Tanenbaum : of course…they will 12:54:29 From Michelle Massi : America has never been a democracy it is a Republic , like and unlike Rome except for this ,”We the people“, Time for we the people ,its time has come to be that….United …Rebel ar 12:54:30 From Shannon McArthur : the death struggles are in process 12:54:38 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : SO BE IT!!! 12:54:45 From Paul Coleman : It is striking back already and yes we have to be aware and active. 12:54:48 From Jane : Malini, are you aware of the new S.E.E. cuurriculum paunched in India? 12:55:00 From Jane : launched 12:55:03 From Carlos Prosser : The biggest coalition of radical colaboration 12:55:28 From Shannon McArthur : we ARE the butterfly /phoenix /dragon rising from the ashes 12:55:38 From Stanley Pokras Pokras : Collaboration via OtherNetworks.org please help fill it up. 12:55:40 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : We are moving into the Age of Aquarius and this stands for community and collaberation. 12:56:00 From Jane : Laughter, love it! 12:56:03 From Diane Skidmore : You're actually doing what Paul Hawken said - and you're even using the same pictures - "The Empire Strikes Back" fits perfectly with his intro that the list of organisations that were running in the style of Star Wars!! Amazing. 12:56:24 From Gabriela Valenzuela-Hirsch : Muchas Gracias everyone! Totally grateful for such inspiration! Sending everyone love and light! “WeALL Yeah!” “REVEL ARMY TOGETHER” 12:56:24 From Doreen Tanenbaum : I agree Jim but we need to promote more by putting together short information clips to send to people outside Ubiverse platform 12:56:26 From Liliane Mavridara : Thank you All!!!!!! <3 12:56:28 From Katina Hernandez : Thank you all! 12:56:32 From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT : Eaxactly, Diane 12:56:42 From Roslyn Scheuerman Scheuerman : Thank you - awesome! 12:56:43 From Kathryn Alexander, MA : love you all! 12:56:44 From Shannon McArthur : beautiful people & presentaationns 12:56:53 From Jen Forti : Thanks everyone! Keep on shining <3