From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 AM)

Hello from West Wales, UK

From shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 AM)

hello all - :D

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 AM)

Good Day from Seattle.  Staying in the stillness here.

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:01 AM)

Good Morning, Jim, and all you wonderful people seeking the greatest good for All That Is… please include all attendees in your comments here. May your day be far better than you expect.

From carol adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:02 AM)

greetings from the ancestral land of the Lenni Lenape (Philadelphia)

From Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:02 AM)

Good morning on this beautiful sunny day in the woods of North Carolina!

From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (11:02 AM)

There is no data suggesting medical pandemic in the UK

From Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:03 AM)

Happy New Dawn Day from Canada

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:04 AM)

Loving greetings from Cindy in sunny South Carolina

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:05 AM)

@jim Thank you for setting the tone for the day.

From Suzanne Marie to Panelists and Attendees: (11:06 AM)

Yes, for the Greatest Good of All That Is!

From Me to Panelists: (11:07 AM)

.              ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.  You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541  .               ..oOo.. ========================== .          We have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the same time.   We also send a daily message to the list that points to all of the HR Chats since mid July. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ==========================

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:07 AM)

My peace and joy fill us all today.  Blessings.

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:08 AM)

.              ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.  You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541  .               ..oOo.. ========================== .          We have an email list for Chat People to interact without being on at the same time.   We also send a daily message to the list that points to all of the HR Chats since mid July. Write to be added to the list: -- stan@communitymagic.org ==========================

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (11:08 AM)

good morning Shelly

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:08 AM)

@Shelly  Good Morning.

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:09 AM)

We  meet EVERY DAY, Shelly!!
of HR,  anyway

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:11 AM)

Please - don’t keep referencing the fear and not-great outcome … let’s FOCUS on envisioning a highest outcome only. We know it might not be Biden, but let’s not bring that energy in here
Report facts, of course. I don’t mean to wash the information

From Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees: (11:16 AM)

HAHAHA!!!!!

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:19 AM)

where is Charles Eisenstein?

From Richard Buckley to Panelists and Attendees: (11:20 AM)

Charles is with us.

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:21 AM)

he and Vandana are on next?

From Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

Thank you Shelly for the overview!

From Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

Thank you so much Shelly <3

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

Thank you Shelly.

From shelly alcorn to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

Thanks everyone
please enjoy the rest of the program :D

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

You   too, Shelly!

From Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:22 AM)

Thank you Shelly for setting a context.

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (11:23 AM)

@Shelly - thanks for the 5 positives!!

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:24 AM)

Welcome Charles and Vandana.  Your Good works abound.

From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:24 AM)

Thank You Vandana  for that!

From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (11:25 AM)

Question the framing indeed, thank you!!!

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:25 AM)

Yes Charles! Ging deeper

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 AM)

The real power lies within.

From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 AM)

Very true analogy!

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 AM)

I love you, Charles… clearly seen, imho

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:26 AM)

@charles exactly.

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:27 AM)

seeing Trump and Biden as mascots puts them in a healthy light.
healthy? well, maybe not so much

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

good analogy

From kparkhill to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

This makes so much sense, mascots!

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

but less powerful than what they’ve enjoyed.

From Jen Broyles to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

He is spot on. I love hearing his perspective and he speaks so eloquently, truthfully, and articulately.

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

“There’s no such thing as higher or lower consciousness. That’s a coded part of the story of separation. There’s only what you are conscious of.” - Charles

From Giedre Kleivaite to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

absolutely agree with you Charles !!!!!

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:28 AM)

yes

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:29 AM)

Yes!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (11:29 AM)

It’s the systems, not the people. It’s the beliefs not the people. The shift needed is major and way beyond one administration - even at 8 years.

From Suzanne Marie to Panelists and Attendees: (11:29 AM)

so true, Charles

From Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees: (11:31 AM)

Jerry Mander, founder of IFG

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:32 AM)

From Lancaster PA: Pins and needles today. Prayers and Peace for the days and,week(s) after.

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (11:33 AM)

About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY, LAW, Money and the Environment: The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) is building a movement for Community Rights and the Rights of Nature to advance democratic, economic, social, and environmental rights – building upward from the grassroots to the state, federal, and international level.  https://celdf.org/ CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.

From Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees: (11:33 AM)

“negative exclusivist identities…"

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:34 AM)

preach!

From RUthe Schoder-Ehri to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 AM)

Thank you Charles and Vandana for bringing our focus to our global imprisonment, the "diversion" of hate and fear -- and our essential unity!

From Suzanne Marie to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 AM)

Thank you @Stan for that info

From Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 AM)

Re Theology of Property, listen to E.F. Schumacher annual lecture by George Monbiot on the need to control land distribution in order to rectify wealth inequities

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:36 AM)

@Vandana Brilliant assessment.  .

From RUthe Schoder-Ehri to Panelists and Attendees: (11:39 AM)

fabulous offering!

From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:39 AM)

Yes, what other economies do we want?

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:40 AM)

Ruthe!! Hello Love!

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:44 AM)

The artificial split! Yes - there is a MIDDLE way that incorprates unity

From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (11:44 AM)

One of my concerns about the conversation is that it may ultimately lead to what I call “analysis paralysis”.  This is not a time for such a paralysis.  As an African American, my sense is this is a time for action.  In my view, we confuse the distinction between authority and power.  Authority is something that is delegated; Power is something that is demonstrated.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:46 AM)

Yes Charles - the desire/need fo REAL democracy… this is a transformation of epic proportions; let’s be ready to move the process forward for the next decade <3

From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:46 AM)

yes Charles!!!

From Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees: (11:46 AM)

Very well said!! We need to focus on the truth

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:46 AM)

What happened to freedom of choice?

From Peg Kuperman to Panelists and Attendees: (11:47 AM)

Yes, exactly Charles…most often the choice of the lesser of two evils

From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (11:48 AM)

Democracy in UK in further disarray with powers being exercised in name of pandemic, former chief justice update https://resources.law.cam.ac.uk/privatelaw/Freshfields_Lecture_2020_Government_by_Decree.pdf

From Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees: (11:48 AM)

Agree

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:49 AM)

The Supreme Court matters who's in the White House (and the Senate)

From Linda Kwan to Panelists and Attendees: (11:49 AM)

Yes!!!

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:49 AM)

What do we do with our unprecedented power that is good? Post DJT his supporters still exist. We can choose to integrate these disenfranchised voices in an act of trust, love, and true cocreation for a more conscious evolution, inverting the process organically, so that it follows the people.

From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (11:49 AM)

The person in the White House, however, does set a tone.  So, it’s not irrelevant.

From Linda Kwan to Panelists and Attendees: (11:50 AM)

@cindy that's beautiful!

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:50 AM)

I disagree whittle word/process “integrate” “others” - we need to create a COMPLETELY new paradigm. The “left (which I appear to be aligned with) is NOT the “end all"

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:50 AM)

Thank you, Linda.

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:51 AM)

YES Jim

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:51 AM)

a mascot is exactly for that purpose, Cuf… ;0

From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (11:51 AM)

Thank you, Jim, for your perspective.  It does matter who sits in the White House.

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:51 AM)

@Sally this is all about cocreating the NEW in my perspective

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:52 AM)

Great questions Jim?

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:52 AM)

@Cindy - yes it is co-create the new… but it is not up to “us” to “absorb/transform” the current administration supporters… so I want to be very clear that we need a quantum shift

From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (11:52 AM)

The Paris Accord is basically a corporate raft of policies to perpetuate extracting resources by a sleight of hand than reduces every living activity to carbon accounting: the story of separation

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (11:52 AM)

I agree Jim, individual choices also matter and there is much work to do to change the institutions that are corrupting the world

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:53 AM)

EVERY individual matters. EVERY opinion matters… even if it is not communicated. What we put into the field grows.
But it is through communication that we create the Power of People… Time for POP to rule.

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:54 AM)

we have the technology…  do we have the will?

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:54 AM)

Our constitution needs to be SERIOUSLY amended to update our guidance dicument to reflect a new knowing… I have been active in the past in the move to amend to eliminate the power of money and corporations, for instance...

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (11:54 AM)

Yes Shannon!

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:55 AM)

the United Nations have a purpose…
the economy is the flow of resources…

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (11:57 AM)

Berniecrats have infiltrated the DEM Party. Biden wins and we're on him

From Meg Newhouse to Panelists and Attendees: (11:57 AM)

I’m wondering about the potential power of the people who are showing up on Humanity Rising, mostly younger generations, who have an entirely different vision that can dismantle the current system.

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (11:57 AM)

@Sally How can we evolve without interconnectedness? No intent to “transform” as that is separation.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

I agree Vandana - there is a business/finanace/wealth-seeking basis for ruling… this is now so much more apparent to more people… we are watching the Fall… and we with the grass roots  are called to rise

From Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

“Magnetic force polarizes the quanta” like unrecognized shadow accentuates division and othering…

From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

yes everyone! all her beings.

From RUthe Schoder-Ehri to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

YES! EARTH democracy!!

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

@Vandana Expansive View.  Beautiful.

From RUthe Schoder-Ehri to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

our gem from today, I am so grateful

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (11:58 AM)

YES, Vandana

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (11:59 AM)

beautifully said Vandana

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (11:59 AM)

@Cindy - I might not be making my point well - YES, we MUST be interconnected! I am uncomfortable with teh idea that any “one group” has the answers… people talk about “us” “converting” “them”… I think WE need to CONNECT from a “open mind"

From Jenna Tontz to Panelists and Attendees: (12:00 PM)

The only way that people can connect is with the healing of their minds.

From Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:00 PM)

Humanity and Earth Rising Together

From Jenna Tontz to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)

Trump is an incompetent human.  He has been in 3500 lawsuits! 3500!!!!

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)

Hitler a cult leader so is Trump Do not under estimate the cult of the personality

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)

Our collective project - Making a place we can all call home?

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:01 PM)

Charles - yes - the disaffected are looking for a hero

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)

@Ian, a home we WANT to call home…

From Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)

Rob Hopkins recently put out a book titled “From What Is To What If”. I’m picking it up today and can’t wait to start “envisioning” a better world! https://www.robhopkins.net/2019/10/10/first-review-of-from-what-is-to-what-if/

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)

@Jen, looks good!!

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:02 PM)

Do we need a conviviality movement on a par with the sustainability movement??

From Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)

Sigh.... such a good conversation and so true!! it’s very discouraging

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)

yes, Ian, sounds good  to me!

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)

@Sally agree re; uncomfortable with the idea that any one group has all the answers...feels like too much polarization.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:03 PM)

May I note - we are very clear about the assault on people off color, immigrants, etc… women are ALSO being repressed in a new way…

From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)

I don’t agree with you, Charles.  It took a long time to set a tone for the civil rights laws.  You have to start somewhere.  To do nothing is to invite paralysis & just “analysis paralysis”

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)

@Jane, yup

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)

Can we become artists of possibility? Each of us is an artist of our days.

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:04 PM)

Need to remain open to listening to all sides and employ critical thinking and inner wisdom,

From Jenna Tontz to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)

@Dr. Carroy I agree with you.  Evolution is happening and it takes centuries.

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)

with bad mascots

From Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)

Earth Democracy Vandana Shiva (Google search)

https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/democracy/2003/01/01/earth-democracy-an-interview-with-vandana-shiva
Earth Democracy - an interview with Vandana Shiva - Jan 1, 2003 · Vandana Shiva is a physicist and an organic farmer, an instigator of India's historic “tree- ...

https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1238&context=belj
Vandana Shiva, Earth Democracy: Sustainability, Justice and Peace, 26 Buff. Envtl. L.J. 1 (2019).
Available at: https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/belj/vol26/iss1/1 

An article about a talk at Washington Univ: https://sustainability.wustl.edu/students-explore-earth-democracy-with-vandana-shiva/ Feb 26, 2019 — The talk, titled “Earth Democracy,” proposed an alternative worldview in which humans are embedded in the Earth Family...

A review: https://escholarship.org/content/qt1sn052vq/qt1sn052vq.pdf
Review: Earth Democracy: Justice, Sustainability, and Peace
Reviewed by Byron Anderson, Northern Illinois University,

From Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)

A helpful outline: https://earthlight.org/2002/essay47_democracy.html
Earth democracy is based on local living democracy with local communities, organised on principles of inclusion and diversity and ecological and social ...
Ten Principles of Justice, Sustainability and Peace: A supplement to EarthLight Magazine #47, Fall/Winter 2002/03

Video result for Earth Democracy Vandana Shiva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePCqDOLUTvU
1:35:59 "Earth Democracy" with Vandana Shiva, PhD · Naropa University Jan 7, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gExROI6oig8
59:06 Earth Democracy: Peace with the Earth, Justice for All  Yale Divinity School Apr 30, 2018

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:05 PM)

Yes Charles - there is a truth inside all these ideas… and a pathology… we need to “see differently"

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)

Charles you are SO right! How I wish we could have these conversations with each other. The right would have NO power if there wasn’t some truth in what they say. the manipulation of that truth is the issue - how to shift that???

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)

The puppet ideas - simplifying to make it a way to find a target

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)

Yes Charles!

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)

Can we imagine an interpenetrative ‘we’ - where there is no ‘them’ and no ‘us’?

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:06 PM)

@Kathryn - agree

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)

@ian, we are ONE…

From Kip Adams to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)

All forces domestic and foreign that separate need to be resisted

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)

Really powerful Charles

From Suzanne Marie to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)

Yes, Charles ...you are so right on.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:07 PM)

@Charles - defining yourself by our hate - ouch!

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)

Symptom of disintegration - agree Charles! - can we see this all as the necessary breakdown before breakthrough?

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)

It appears that the business model of the military Industrial complex is to sew discord and sell weapons.

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:08 PM)

So how do we navigate this?  When the air and water are gone.  Who wins?  I watch the PNW being trashed.  Our waters.  We can't clean up fast enough.  .

From Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)

Humans must evolve the latent potential in our brains to be able to process the complexity of the 21st Century.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)

@Kip - if “what we resist persists”, we need not to resist, but to remove focus from the conflict to a focus of What We Want

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)

What we-story might we want to tell to our collective future?

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)

Well said Sally.

From Marty Clemons to Panelists and Attendees: (12:09 PM)

Agree @Sally

From Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)

@Jim That's such a critical question - what would true democracy look like?

From Jenna Tontz to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)

we don’t have a democracy, we have a plutocracy it seems.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:11 PM)

This is an incredible session and incredible chat commentary - thank you all for your energy <3

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)

Our common task - to develop what passes for democracy, and to democratize what passes for development?

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:12 PM)

CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)

Yes....the economy is going behind their own self-built curtain

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)

From Vandana’s comments - is it that we need to Start Local - Start in our communities? Change starts at teh roots?

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (12:13 PM)

yes they are enslaving us

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)

Yes, people are waking up to teh dysfunction at all levels

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:14 PM)

Cuomo has invited all 5 billionaires to NYC to run rampant here.

From jas dale to Panelists and Attendees: (12:15 PM)

More guidance on how in our communities and work we can express humanity rising without creating more alienation/polarisation please.

From Cindy Bledsoe to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Once in a SynCon event, a conscious collaboration process, an LA gang member pointed to an idea generated by an elected person and said, “Wait. That’s what we want. That’s why we’re rioting.” When we circle around joining the unique genius in each of us, we can converge people who normally do not communicate, and encourage interconnectedness and oneness. Perhaps WE are the technology.

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Consider our collective Work as a pilgrimage of We-dentity (based on David Whyte’s ‘Crossing the Unknown Sea - Work as a Pilgrimage of Identity’)

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Preach!

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

yes, we must start in our communities. It is in our communities we must grow our food and help each other heal.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

@Vandana - machines not as our measure - brilliant and very clear!

From Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Love it too!!

From Suzanne Marie to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Thank you Vedanta...yes, the rights of people AND rights of the Earth.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Wow Vandana

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

@Vandana   YES!!!!!!!!!! perfect for the state of affairs here.  thank you.

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

@vandana - thanks for Earth Democracy -

From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Panelists and Attendees: (12:16 PM)

Underlying the ideals of democracy is understanding the power of “yes” and “no”.  Here’s a link to an article I wrote awhile ago regarding that power.  https://www.academia.edu/20666564/The_Power_of_Yes_and_No_The_Relationship_to_Consciousness_Probable_Realities_and_E_motions_

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:17 PM)

the local level is served by http://ourheartgardens.com
so is the global
I need help with the website and outreach
welcome to  come to after HR Chat to talk about it

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:18 PM)

@vandana - Resilient Values help make that shift to Earth Democracy real - love to talk!

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)

@Ian - yes to Our common task - to develop what passes for democracy, and to democratize what passes for development? sounds like @Vendana could contribute great insight to this?

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)

Yes Charles - it is hard to question “authority” when it comes to health and honest discussion about drugs and vaccines

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:19 PM)

WE had an experience of that yesterday on Humanity Rising with Natalie…

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)

@ Charles, it is a sick way of being.

From David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)

Great question @Ian.  How about a story about our common evolution on tough planet, our common responsibility to prevent uncontrolled global warming, our common appreciation of the sacred Oneness of this universe, and our co-creative responsibility to maximize human and planetary well-being as we transition to a thermostable world? David Stoney

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:20 PM)

@Charles - how do manage lies and false information and also all freedom of speech?

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)

growth happens  on the fringes  - the uncharted territory…

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)

Starts at local level soulfully, at ballot box, 150 year ago politics was local and the precinct captain canvassed the neighborhood to face constituents, connected in multiple dimensions, now use scaled up data driven systems of campaigning without relationship(Dr. Al Gross running for Senate has been suing relational campaigning) Social media has been hijacked to higher degree than before, reduced to digital interaction, risen to new height, not supposed to protest against lockdown because we can live virtually-food/meetings/dance parties every interaction surveilled/controlled vaccine skeptics texts are deleted governed by External power, freedom of assembly/speach to in the hands of corporations, can not distinguish between state and corporation interwoven, democracy requires that we validate what can not be converted into quantity, (QUALITY is not QUANTITY>) algorithms internet of things to rationally administer the entirety, nothing that can not be measured reductionism life to quantity,

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:21 PM)

g’morn’ Kat! Thank you!

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)

Yes Vanada...we must be vigilant when it comes to our over reliance on all facets of tech. and the power of tech./data .

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)

iff  we turn  away from what ‘they’ want us to put our  energy to… and turn toward growing things together...

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:22 PM)

@Charles - come to our face to face group (zoom to zoom) after this episode... If you can't come today come another time,,,

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

@Charles - technologies of heart coherence?

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

brilliant Charles

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

Economics happiness of utility to money, Democracy is a reclamation of humanity rising reclaim the relational, back into relationship into the things that are not mediated by digits, something of this striving is visible through it, Tech of quantity is meant to be a tool among many other tools, tech of relationship/life/plants/water/sacred/elements?indigenous wisdom?

From Ian Wight to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

Can we see our selves as persons, rather than as individuals? Persons in the whole-making business…

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

Love the technologies of LIFE.

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

@Cuf - downloaded - will read - thanks

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:23 PM)

.              ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.  You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541  .               ..oOo..

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:24 PM)

@Stanley - great idea - I can not stay on, but please include me if there are any communications from it “sally.okoniewski@gmail.com”

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:24 PM)

@Jane - YES!

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)

Ok, Sally. We meet each day and send s video of our meeting.

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)

@Stanley...would love to join you in the after chat, but have to leave after the HR session.

From Meg Newhouse to Panelists and Attendees: (12:25 PM)

Agreed; brilliant and inspiring.  Somehow I wanted to hear heart as part of the solution. Oh, Jim is saying that.

From Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

Outstanding conversation thank you!

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

JG: democracy in our time must be EARTH DEMOCRACY underlying all our beliefs/ideologies/narratives/mythologies who we think we are, science world view for centuries that EARTH is meaningless, we treat each other in this spirit, reclaiming of humanity rising stories we tell ourselves, embrace story that we ARE EARTH>>>>yes, we reflect the nature of nature to nature naturally!

From Anne Baring to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

What you are saying, Jim, is of supreme importance. Thank you, thank you.

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

@charles   @jim  This is Truth. We are Earth.

From Hilary Van Welter to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

If you take the h from the end of earth and put it in front you get heart

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:26 PM)

@Vandana - please visit us, even just briefly after this session...

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

@Hilary - _/\_
@Jim - yes, so sad

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

Aho

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

@hilary - beautiful unentangled logos earth/heart

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

Thank you all for taking us beyond.  Glorious.

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

Thank you so very much for a broad and beautiful discussion of what this moment might mean to each of us! @Vandana @Charles @Jim

From Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

THANK YOU ALL

From Shalahnia Riversong to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

so what has been coming to my mind is being articulately manifest here this morning  I am Grateful ~ reclamation of  qualitative relationship  Earth and all she is/we are in the circle of Life/

From Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees: (12:27 PM)

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH <3

From Monica Affleck to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

a deep thank you to Charles, Vandana and Jim

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Shalahnia!!

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Huge Gratitude Charles,Vandana for your wisdom.

From Marilyn Hamilton to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

@Jim @Charles @Vandana - you are such brilliant voices for Earth - thank you

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

How lovely to  see  you here!

From jay Kauffman to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Thanks for the conversation. Very important. What a relief to hear some sanity on Election Day in the US

From Anne Baring to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

This had been wonderful, Thank you all so much.

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Charles: filtered through SIDEDENESS relax these categories and view from an outside perspective way of holding us

From Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

What an incredible conversation. In gratitude....

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Jim...as always Gold Star!

From Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

a real Dust Up!

From Shalahnia Riversong to Panelists and Attendees: (12:28 PM)

Thanks for all holding this this morning!

From Doreen Tanenbaum to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

Thank All!

From Anne-Marie Goncalves Desai to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

thank you Jim, Vandana and Charles, it was truly heart warming and inspiring

From Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

Come to Chat!!

From Me to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

.              ..oOo.. ========================== Dear Chat PEOPLE and  panelists Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.  You can join the Zoom Meeting https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09 Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451 Passcode: 919541  .               ..oOo..

From Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

Vandana: Yes we are EARTH, what can we do? Care/love-no uselessness then a living economy emerges-ECONOMOLOGY Economy that respects ecology

From Sharon Truax to Panelists and Attendees: (12:29 PM)

Thank you Vandana!  I'm re-fired!

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:30 PM)

Thanks to all and your feedback.

From Annelies Weijschede to Panelists and Attendees: (12:30 PM)

Bis Bis… Thank you, we are Earth!! PS Enlivenment by Andreas Weber aligns with Earth Democracy - (Seeing all beings in a common household of matter, desire, and imagination, an economy of metabolic and economic transformation, is “enlivenment.” Love being a warrior of live for the Human Spirit (Margaret Wheatley) and Earth!

From Kurt Krueger to Panelists and Attendees: (12:30 PM)

Love and prayers for you all. :) CU soon. Love. Kurt

From Jane to Panelists and Attendees: (12:31 PM)

Back at you Kurt.