From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:07 AM)

@Jane, indeed. I cannot even fathom where I would have been, in what state, if it weren't for HR each and every day. Very important for me to re-focus and re-align.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:07 AM)

Agree Liliane.
Refocus, realign and maintaining Gratitude for all that we are all experiencing.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:09 AM)

JG: black George Floyd killed by white police officers in Minneapolis, Federal agents unmarked are showing up in American cities using Gestapo tactics, reverberative affects of the pandemic #2 hurricane Hanna hit one of worst COVID areas of USA, Xtreme weather events will continue to escalate. Diminishing time frame with escalating of multiple threats to him sapiens species survivability. Amsterdam will use Donut economics and dozens of other communities in original ways are embracing these solutions, worse and worse/faster and faster. 4th day of Eduard Muller Pre of Univ of International Cooperation, enviro embracing regenerative economic for 7 days, alternative economic practices to embrace human well being at the center and ecological constraints at the periphery, human abundance so we all thrive, within the ecological order, with ecological constraints…IMAGINE THE WORLD WE ARE CREATING!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:09 AM)

Gratitude as always to you Kat.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:09 AM)

;)

From gary wohlman to All panelists and other attendees: (11:10 AM)

;~)))))

From Jim Garrison to All panelists and other attendees: (11:11 AM)

Hi Jane, I’m so glad you are finding HR of so much good in your life. It is deeply affirming.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:11 AM)

As shown by Epi (an HR speaker) - it's all happening faster and faster. So glad we're doing more (for example, setting up extra donut sessions). Keep noticing language - need to take care of the words we use and - I'm all for physical distancing but - personally I'm totally socially synchronising - loads!!! Hello everyone :) :) :)

From Jim Garrison to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

Thanks for all your affirmations. Makes me happy. We are working so hared to bring this to you each day. Good to know it’s appreciated.

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

@Jim, it is appreciated and reverberating at levels we cannot even fathom yet. Thank you.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

Gosh xxx Appreciated sooooo much!!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

Presenters: John Fullerton, Founder, Capital Institute, Author, Regenerative Economics and Regenerative Finance  Christian Felber, Author, Economy for the Common Good  Brett Scott, CEO, Altered States of Monetary Consciousness  Ali Niknam, Founder & CEO of bunq Bert-Ola Bergstrand, Founder and Chairman, Social Capital Forum Dr Kristian Mjøen heads the Geneva UN Charter Center of Excellence on SDG City Transitions and has co-founded United Cities, an international NGO engaged in supporting Sustainable Urban Development

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

@Jim - this makes my day - everyday!!! I’m working hard to bring other this is a not to be missed event!

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:12 AM)

It is, Jim, so very much! Thank you so much!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:13 AM)

Alternative Economic Systems We have other powerful initiatives such as John Fullertons’ Regenerative Economics and Finance, inspired on the fact that the universal patterns and principles the cosmos uses to build stable, healthy, and sustainable systems throughout the real world are a model for economic-system design based on key, interconnected principles that underlie systemic health. “Economic vigor is a product of human and societal vitality, rooted in ecological health and the inclusive development of human capabilities and potential.” John’s work on Regenerative Capitalism is based on how these universal principles and patterns will shape our new economy.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:13 AM)

yes - works here

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:14 AM)

Christian Felber’s Economy for the Common Good is a social movement advocating for an alternative economic model for people and the planet. It calls for working towards the common good and cooperation as value above profit-orientation and competition. ECG is an economic model, which makes the Common Good, a good life for everyone on a healthy planet, its primary goal and purpose. At the heart of this concept lies the idea that values-driven businesses are mindful of and committed to human dignity, solidarity and social justice, environmental sustainability, transparency and co-determination allowing these to gain a competitive advantage in this new economy.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:15 AM)

OMG!!

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:15 AM)

With 3.5 we wont even make it pass 10 years...

From MALINI Rajendran to All panelists and other attendees: (11:15 AM)

OMG economic growth for whome?

From Me to All panelists: (11:15 AM)

@Jim - Can you have the people running this to turn on the feature for saving the chat? The current setting is to turn OFF the button that can allow people to save the chat.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:16 AM)

And the cost of human life is….? LOL to amazing

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

too!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

Gosh!! Another illusion shattered - always thought Nobel Prize was good but...…. Thank goodness for alternative thinkers (Regenerative Economics for example) The root is the system!!!

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

Indeed. Why is there so little understanding of what an economy and money is when it

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

we need a cure for our heads!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

So important to see alignment with wisdom traditions.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

True Xpanionist human activity into wildlife areas increases zoonotic virus to “hit” humans

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (11:17 AM)

s one of our primary system. Learning this myself during the last couple of years is very profound,

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:18 AM)

We need to live (and some of us already do) live differently!! Stop shopping. stop flying - stuff like that. We (HR) really need to build a narrative. No solutions - total change!!

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (11:18 AM)

SLIDE:

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (11:19 AM)

Regenerative Economics 
is the application of nature's laws and patterns of systemic health, self-organization, self-renewal, and regenerative vitality 
to socio-economic systems. 
Remarkably aligned with our wisdom traditions

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:19 AM)

So true, Diane!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:19 AM)

Yes Diane!

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:19 AM)

thanks, Leo

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:20 AM)

Indigenous people have been warning us for so long.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:20 AM)

The more ordinary people join in - the better!! We do actually have the power!!

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:20 AM)

nice slide

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:21 AM)

Yes Suzannah. how sad that we did not have the humilty and wisdom to hear the indigenous wisdom.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:21 AM)

Yes @Suzannah - indigenous folk have always said it - we just need to listen - be guided!!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:22 AM)

@Liliane LOL

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (11:22 AM)

Anita Sanchez was a panelist, Indigenous Lakota, book - The Four Sacred Truths- fantastic to listen to… :)

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:22 AM)

Morals and values _ funny - the words came in just as he said it. We must encourage strong values!! (Love again hahaha)

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (11:23 AM)

The book, Braiding Sweetgrass and this TedTalk video by the author supports what we learned on Donut economics. Love to talk with you about it. And how we may bring the Regenerative Society for the amelioration of Life. :)  Reclaiming the Honorable Harvest: Robin Kimmerer at TEDxSitka

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:23 AM)

Beautiful book, Kurt.

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (11:23 AM)

@Jim - Can you have the people running this to turn on the feature for saving the chat? The current setting is to turn OFF the button that can allow people to save the chat.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:24 AM)

Thanks Stanley.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:24 AM)

John Fullerton: begin with regenerating living systems, aligning our solutions with root causes aligned with wisdom traditions remembering what we’ve always known and updating it for the modern context, from parts to patterns, from high energy throughput to low energy throughput system, 8 principles/qualities of regenerative economy of his research to articulate not readable single degenerative to regenerative states, from goals into a singular visual, planetary constraints, get back inside where boundaries have been breached and lower floor where it is immoral, Trump is not about conservative values, progressive/vs conservative neither can debate gravity, must debate well intended these principles, Xample: body my body is only as healthy as my feet circulates blood, if feet do not work, then the body suffers, health of entire system is like this, roadmap from one generation to another level of businesses to social organizing in increasing complexity, solutions to todays problem are not the solutions tomorro

From Kala Perkins to All panelists and other attendees: (11:25 AM)

What was the web site address he mentioned? Thanks

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:25 AM)

@Stanley, yes. Would Humanity Rising post the transcribed chats to your website?

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

capital institute.org
all together

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

@Liliane ty

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

I love the idea not to resist what we believe to be wrong (because this costs energy) but simply to build a better system beside the old one.

From Rieta Aliredjo to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

https://capitalinstitute.org/

From Kala Perkins to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

Thanks!

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (11:26 AM)

https://goodbusinesscolorado.org/resilient-restaurants/blog/2020/4/30/regenerative-capitalism

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:27 AM)

I’m sending good vibes …

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:27 AM)

@Suzannah Yes!! build back better!!

From KC Vazquez to All panelists and other attendees: (11:27 AM)

Great to see you John. thanks for your continued work

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:27 AM)

Well done Shanon - good vibes - I'll join you xxx

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:28 AM)

blessings!!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:28 AM)

And Gratitude xxx

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:32 AM)

I would argue that there is no science of economics!  It’s a faux science, but really an ideology as Christian is now saying.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:32 AM)

Yes always Gratitude Diane.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:32 AM)

Yes, John

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:32 AM)

These are not values - maybe principles and these are not tied to nature …

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:33 AM)

This is one of the key questions.  Do we design around human values (which I’m not sure we really agree on) or do we design around living systems science (which is aligned with indigenous wisdom!)

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:34 AM)

Just a structure that tends to be non inclusive,

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:34 AM)

human values have been shown to be flawed.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:35 AM)

The purpose of science is to teach us about living systems.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:35 AM)

@Shannon - nature’s ‘values’ not so much :-)

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:35 AM)

Human values vary from person to person - same problem with democracy - all depends on education!!

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:35 AM)

Nature’s values are clear and can be harsh.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

Harsh is fine - at least it's clear where you stand

From MALINI Rajendran to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

@diane and how information is presented.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

@John I’d love to take to you about values. There are certain values that form systems. There are three. they are not mutually supportive and like all systems they have intents or purposes - therein lies the issue.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

Back to the change in Education that is required.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

@malini - yes
And @Jane yes

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:36 AM)

Christian Felber: Economy for the Common Good, new model, TAPAS, social/soliday economics, donut economics, Blue/Circular… ECG Holistic Theory of change, Movement action, Democratic process, Impact, System change, System change? Value system & Legal framework, move from ideology to actual change,  5 values none in democratic values currently, make core transparent-neoclassical economists say it relies on values and not measurable/scientific mainstream, nature does not show markets-which are manmade laws, economic theory currently bouncing between Capitalism and Marxism, removed imagining alternatives, economy for common good is right in the middle picks up collective decision making but not absolute, regenerative, donut implemented, Aristotle:oikonomia goal is common good and capital is the means if perverted and becomes the goal itself it inflects to its opposite into the art of getting rich capitalism and economy are opposites, economy for common good picks up existing values and broader ecological values

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:37 AM)

@Shannon - not harsh at all.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:37 AM)

You don’t see Covid as harsh? @Kathryn

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:37 AM)

Depends how one defines harsh.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:38 AM)

Perhaps Nature is more direct and clear if we are attuned to it.

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:38 AM)

The Aristotle insight that Herman Daly writes about in “For the Common Good” was one of my own “epiphany” moments.  Incredible how long we have understood what we are trying not to relearn.

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:38 AM)

Dear Jim, Rick, dear friends, Since several days ago I'm having a problem to enter to HR through the computer as what it happens is that as soon as I enter my screen gets cut and stops my whole computer. Then I have to turn everything off and it doesn't happen with any other web in Internet or Zoom, only with HR. Anyone could help. Now I'm in my telephone!!!

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:38 AM)

now to learn, right John?

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:39 AM)

No - nothing that is a result of the system is actually ‘harsh’ that is a value judgement. From the perspective of the SYSTEM it is needed and provides a useful purpose. The lack of respect - from humans - is what is harsh.

From MALINI Rajendran to All panelists and other attendees: (11:39 AM)

accounting practices need to be modified if this is to be achieved. what will a new P and L statement and balance sheet look like.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:40 AM)

CF: all current Constitutions declare goal os the common good, into real life, today we measure success with monetary indicators: GDP, ROI, Enterprise financial balance sheet, SO PROPOSE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS a Common Good, high quality of life, Common Good Matrix, human dignity, solidarity/social justice, enviro sustainability. transparency/co-determination

From Miles Seiden to All panelists and other attendees: (11:40 AM)

Covid, like all viruses, is not alive. It’s difficult to call something that has no motive other than doing what it does as “harsh.” Are volcanoes harsh? Their process is certainly violent compared to a breeze, but the serve an important purpose in terraforming the earth.

From MALINI Rajendran to All panelists and other attendees: (11:41 AM)

the chart needs to add time, skill and community effort.
what about TIME BANKS

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:41 AM)

Agree Kathryn, the lack of respect from humans is harsh.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:42 AM)

CF: flip market perversions today with lower taxes, tariffs, interest rates, public procurement, cooperative research in publ universities, direct subsidies all legal incentives correct central current incentives

From Beth Brownfield to All panelists and other attendees: (11:42 AM)

@kat you’re back!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:42 AM)

@Miles - not too sure about ‘not alive’ we are learning that life may be different than we have defined it.

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:44 AM)

Could anyone help me please, regarding my problem with the entrance in HR from my computer?

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:44 AM)

@Beth :) CF:  Hono chrematisikus or Homo… from couterpetition to competition to cooperation building on Kate’s donut, @Raquel what is your challenge?

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:44 AM)

Dear Jim, Rick, dear friends, Since several days ago I'm having a problem to enter to HR through the computer as what it happens is that as soon as I enter my screen gets cut and stops my whole computer. Then I have to turn everything off and it doesn't happen with any other web in Internet or Zoom, only with HR. Anyone could help. Now I'm in my telephone!!!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

Raquel, perhaps you will need a new zoom link to enter.

From Diane Sue to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

@ Raquel Have you tried entering with the other links?

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

I saw the slide

From Diane Sue to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

https://www.facebook.com/UbiquityUniversityOnline
https://www.youtube.com/c/UbiquityUniversity
https://www.awaketvnetwork.live/humanity-rising-channel

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

@Raquel, you can also try over facebook or youtube.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

Gosh Raquel - that's harsh!!! (Properly :)) !!) Will aim to send blessings but - thank goodness you've got your phone!!

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

Eduard, thank you for responding. It doesn't happen with any other thing in my computer or in another Zoom connections!!! Only with HR!!!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

CF: nation states not able to implement though many citizens prefer these solutions

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:46 AM)

@Shannon - can we send Raquel double blessings? xxx

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:47 AM)

i’m on it!!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:47 AM)

The overall ….. is waiting for us hahaha

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:47 AM)

Yes Diane. It's a real hustle!!! Thanks for the blessings:-)

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:47 AM)

I did see a slide and then Didn't when Christian changed it.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:47 AM)

@Rachel can you clear your cache? Google how to do that for a you tube video perhaps?

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:48 AM)

We've got a face - yaaaay!! thanks Christian good to see you

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:48 AM)

It's so difficult to write and follow from the telephone!!!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:48 AM)

META-our speaker and out chat person tech challenges simultaneously!

From Beth Brownfield to All panelists and other attendees: (11:48 AM)

kat send me your email bethbrownf@aol.com

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:48 AM)

Gosh yes - writing too - harsh - again xxx

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:49 AM)

Kat, thank you dear, I did that and even passed the antivirus and nothing helped :-(

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (11:49 AM)

The Supreme Court of the United States has consistently favored the value of Property over the value of Living beings. See Ben G. Price's book "How Wealth Rules the World." This preference has limited the role of people, municipalities and states in determining what laws are in effect.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:49 AM)

hi Kristian! Thanks for stepping up!

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (11:50 AM)

One thing must be or become clear to us, as long as the monetary world system, money, financial systems are used as organizational instruments of mankind, there is no monetary economic 'emergency brake' and no attempted turnaround possible without these systems collapsing! This shows us the minimal emergency interruption due to the Covid crisis. No matter how one wants to change these systems, with doughnats or economies of the common good! Such miscalculations will end up in the most dystopian chaos, which will put last survivors before the choice of cannibalism.
An emergency brake and an attempted turnaround, which could possibly still achieve survival on this planet, is only possible from that point in time when all monetary means are switched off, no longer used and the world organization runs purely via networking (in all its various meanings)!

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:51 AM)

It only happens with HR!!! It's very wears, because I've been talking with other people in Zoom without any problem!!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:51 AM)

@Stan - brilliant and very clear!

From Yasmina Groenstein to All panelists and other attendees: (11:51 AM)

Well...perhaps Christian can be invited for  one event presentation on Economy for the Common Good? :)

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (11:51 AM)

Here is my contribution to a better world, or to a survival... how do you think about, what is your response to the posed issues in the document 'most important message'...
-
Circular: Climate catastrophe - Game over for mankind !?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/11oJ-pn8Z8MaFSq4T8Zkfb8pWBq6QgOa4IHoOFYxuZRY/edit?usp=sharing
.
Criticism on the presentation of the established science & the IPCC on the actual hazardous situation !
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Spqy2GvzjztNE7MKLPFlB_Dm9iUKFiiX4oh0hg1LRwQ/edit?usp=sharing
--
Response to #FaceTheClimateEmergency
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P_ipxNG81wVpUVpg8Ow0BQv8l8o1rfFCJWQt5Vv1AI/edit?usp=sharing

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:54 AM)

Yeah, where are the women in Economics? When in the contrary women control the money and budget siiii very well in a family? Why don't we women  do it with a country?

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:54 AM)

Tha is my question in terms of Education?

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:55 AM)

This is surely the question in all areas,

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:55 AM)

YES!!!

From MALINI Rajendran to All panelists and other attendees: (11:56 AM)

thanks everyone, have to leave for another meeting. will catch-up with the recording of the rest of this session.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (11:56 AM)

Yes Suzannah.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:56 AM)

@Raquel all of the women I’ve known in economics are very similar to Kate - understanding the whole system, however they have all been dismissed. Kate is the first woman to get the kind of traction she’s begetting Hazel Henderson has done very good work as well.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:56 AM)

I think a 'global pool' can only happen electronically. That's why zoom has been so amazing to happen at the same time as (and is almost part of ) Covid.

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:57 AM)

Yeah, but one among all men, seems very little to me :-(

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (11:57 AM)

Kristian Mjoen: Ecological context of living in the middle of nowhere, how can we make a difference without seeing the full picture, without unlimited resources at our disposal, not alone in this quest, permission to livestream these conversations to global entrepreneurs, Day 3 of Sustainable Development Lab, when asked is anyone listening, yes, thousands were and are today in Humanity Rising, what kid of questions were/are being asked most were well interesting, then moving on, how can I be part of this, very resourceful insightful people seeing how baffled they were by being asked how can people join in? no sense how to make more people part of the solution in the end, very promising, (@Raquel where, with whom,when?) Quality of spaces to mobilize resources to do at the ground, search been going on for a decade, though constrained, how might we bridge possibilities, and eliminate some of the middle of nowhere constraints, sustainable value creation? do we see ourselves as something needing to change? No.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (11:57 AM)

"Which space am I in?" - the world!!

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (11:57 AM)

Because Kathryn, maybe they are not trying to enter the male domain but doing their own thing.

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:58 AM)

Check out the Regenerative Communities Network to see example of the learning society  Kristian is talking about

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:58 AM)

No the women I know of have been working on the world stage - Hazel is certainly one

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:58 AM)

https://capitalinstitute.org/regenerative-communities/

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (11:58 AM)

People do still think that money, monetary systems can be controlled.. seeing the history since they are used... the reality is, it's the other way around... they control us !
All monetary means lead gradually to concentration, creating rivalry & competition about these means, therewith to, greed, etc. etc.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (11:58 AM)

Thanks John

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (11:59 AM)

@John, thank you, this is something I have been thinking about.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (11:59 AM)

@ John Fullerton - may I have your email?

From John Fullerton to All panelists and other attendees: (11:59 AM)

networks are how living systems take change to scale.

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (11:59 AM)

Rick, technical help needed. Would you please be able to help me? Since several days ago I'm having a problem to enter to HR through the computer as what it happens is that as soon as I enter my screen gets cut and stops my whole computer. Then I have to turn everything off and it doesn't happen with any other web in Internet or Zoom, only with HR. Anyone could help. Now I'm in my telephone!!!

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:00 PM)

John, you can say that again - let me help! networks are how living systems take change to scale.

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:00 PM)

@Kathryn - A friend of mine is in correspondence with Hazel Henderson her email address is hazel.henderson@ethicalmarkets.com

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:00 PM)

Humanity is a living system!!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:01 PM)

@thanks John and @Stanley

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:01 PM)

KM: How do the internal quality of each of these spaces impact other society goals, 4th then what are the current local potential and realizing local potential between people and purpose beyond one org? to jump forward multiple cities in Nordics and globally in setting up structures that echo findings we have been developing tih policy makers, social entrepreneurs societal innovation, time constraints with urgency increasing appreciation need to invest in systemic innovation, so what might be the operating system of sustainable value creation 3 levels: 1. basic shift in preconceptions mindsets, 3 L’s Listen/Link/Learn personal and sintitutional societal level those parts that need to quiet (STEP UP/STEP BACK)

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:01 PM)

listen link & learn

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:01 PM)

How to Live: - Listen Link and Learn - great!!!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:01 PM)

Hazel was one of the people I had come and talk to my organization AIM (Assoc of Innovative Managers) in the 90s.

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:02 PM)

Humanity is a living system!!
Yes, but they are better connected by networking than by monetary means!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:02 PM)

Deep Listening, Listen with the Softest part of your ears, Anita Sanchez.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:02 PM)

Systemic innovations....Listening at the individual level is key first step to intiaiting change at the group and system level.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:03 PM)

@Jochen - yes!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:03 PM)

@Jochen - yes!! Life is not about Money!!

From Eduard Muller  to All panelists and other attendees: (12:03 PM)

The Regenerative Communities Network offers the space for co-creating solutions at the bioregional level. A network of learning sites for applying regeneration!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:05 PM)

And...what to do if frist step of listening does not occur.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:05 PM)

@Jane - then we are recreating what we already have.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:05 PM)

@Jane - talk even more quietly - people wonder and move in

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:05 PM)

Yes....stuck.

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:06 PM)

Love that, Diane,

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:06 PM)

@Diane - nice!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:06 PM)

KM: 4th space is the quality of listening, social capital theory of linking what do I as individual/org/community help sustain/amplify others working on same goals? Does not work well this giving stuff away within conventional idea, in managerial terms, RETHINK engaging with the world, control, random open process #3 Learning in pragmatic sense, combine resources, shared Experiments, not really learned until can prove in practice at local level their is an improvement in relations/impact  L/L/L components: building blocks? from descriptive theory to normative practice RETHINKING SPACE WHERE VALUE REATION HAPPENS: PLAYGROUND local initiatives, natural resources meet, connected through social media to entrepreneurs outside, not one space, a series of streams that emerge into a larger river over time, 2/4 dimensions JOURNEY-THESE PLAYGROUNDS SO ONE THING DOES NOT STAND ALONE? limited insight/alone/in the wilderness so democratize great ?’s 3/4 WHAT DOES SUSTAINABLE VALUE CREATION MEAN? Negotiated over time 4/4..

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (12:07 PM)

1. Playground 2. Journey 3. Charter 4. Lab

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:07 PM)

Yes Diane move on and trust that at the very least, the seed has been planted.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:07 PM)

@Suzanna - my first reaction was 'Shout' hahaha But - I know that doesn't work - and remembered one of my first lessons - aged 15 - speak quietly xxx

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:08 PM)

This book explains SO MUCH about how capitalism has been diverted from the general welfare to serving the interests or Property Owners: https://wikidelphia.org/How_Wealth_Rules_the_World_%E2%80%93_Ben_G._Price

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:08 PM)

And @Jane - yes - that's what we do - plant seeds!! Often talk to people even when they fall asleep as - reassure them that "It's OK - it's still goin gin the the brain!!"

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:08 PM)

And it so often works, Diane.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:09 PM)

ooops - pressed play too soon hahaha

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:09 PM)

KM: Tools appropriate across time/space different type of lab, combine these complainants across cities developing frameworks this 4th type of policy/knowledge/(?) space to see these outcomes, strange and unpredictable, counterintuitive, traditional management theory is different thatn the evolution of these material consequences at the ground level, what happens when we connect people/places in the middle of nowhere to be included?

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:09 PM)

people passion purpose

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:10 PM)

I so love planting seeds. One might come up and change everything............

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (12:10 PM)

Woooow

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:10 PM)

Hahaha @Shannon - conscious consideration compassion :)
@Suzannah - yes - gardening - build blooms :) (Then cooking too hahaha)

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (12:11 PM)

@Rick, perhaps HR can share on Ubiquity, what has been shared on FB as per Bert-Ola.

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (12:11 PM)

Our Rural Playground will be taking place online next week if you are interested

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:12 PM)

@Michael - link?

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:12 PM)

Never forget to cook what we have grown. What joy!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:12 PM)

Bert-Ola Bergstrand: geography/culture/digital travel as never before, last 4 years journeys and communities in 150 countries from biz/gov/orgs Increase speed of connecting resources, resources listed in Facebook livestream-(Another channel we must research?) govs and people are reflecting a bit and move forward, for early adopters who have been digital, suddenly they are arriving sith social tech, climate change/big problems now must move beyond speaking to connecting resources

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:12 PM)

In the current environment of the pandemic, there is a feeling of urgency when it comes to making the change....we are running ourt of time, so feel the need for the listening to occur.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:12 PM)

Phew!! Thanks Bert-Ola

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:13 PM)

@B-OB: have you connected with TEDx global network?

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (12:13 PM)

@Kathryn we will post in the Learning Society Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/2047218892229268/

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:13 PM)

Here is a BEAUTIFUL SONG Called The Seed by the very young singer, Aurora: https://youtu.be/_Mc_OM5oNA8

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (12:13 PM)

@Rich, Bert-Ola said he shared information on Facebook, which we do not see because we are on zoom.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:14 PM)

Nice one Brett!! Nothing formal - all instinct!!

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:14 PM)

@Michael - thank you

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:14 PM)

Laughing ou tloud - altered states of monetary conscouis was it?? Brill xxx

From Michael Sillion to All panelists and other attendees: (12:15 PM)

it will be spread out from Wednesday evening to Friday evening with a couple of short session

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:15 PM)

exactly what “commodities” is  - betting on futures

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:16 PM)

Gosh. Another one - loved Ed and here we go again. Isn't life wonderful hahaha soil and earth and raindrops yaaaaay!!!1

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:16 PM)

At some point someone has to explain to the elites, to the rich & super-rich, politicians, mass media, these 'think tank' thinkers, limited by their money orientation, that they too can only survive in this great global transition & transformation from the monetary world system to prepared networking and that under the time pressure of the climate catastrophe already in the next few months! Otherwise this realization comes when last survivors clear out their bunkers to get something to eat, at last the rich & super rich themselves, who will lose all financial assets anyway soon!
Very likely we will experience the first ice-free Arctic already this year.. the chain reaction will not be stoppable anymore!
We need a total emergency brake!!!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:17 PM)

hahaha disassociated mind layer - finance hahaha

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (12:17 PM)

@Rich, thank you for checking.

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:17 PM)

The super rich plan to fly to Mars....

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:17 PM)

make them go on a fast!
make them eat money

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:17 PM)

We'll just stay in the playground xxx

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:18 PM)

The we can get on with changing everything.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:18 PM)

Brett Scoot: Heretics guide to global finance, Money system/cash/finance automation ways to respond more META: broader framework, CEO of altered states of monetary consciousness platform, over the counter derivatives (YIKES-layer 8!) Earth then systems large bets on things that happen down below towers of finance, large scale abstractions, activities are the same, contrast with being in the base layer of soil in the EARTH, things done have massive impact but are disassociated or numbed to the effects of your actions, our finance system is in many ways like a super organism like a mind layer that is disassociated and numb to our body, fractal terming: level of bodies get disconnection, at level of economy monetary consciousness take finance and make more holistic? different angles on same objective, strategies tend to target different elements of a system, alternative economics and alternative finance, many traditional activitists say target CEO’s way biz does biz,

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:18 PM)

their resources are “intended” (by ‘God’) to fund the change

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:18 PM)

I would say 'Let them go' but - what a waste and - how dare they!!! (Trash space too??)
Yeah - motormouth - feel freeeeee

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:19 PM)

you are a “hollow reed”  - let it flow!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:20 PM)

When you get to the women of these “elite” like is plaYED WITH IN ARISTOPHANES’ Lysistrata … Educate them, they’ll get things happening. WOMEN will change the world - one way or another - sooner or later. :) Thank God.

From Liliane Mavridara to All panelists and other attendees: (12:20 PM)

@Brett, it makes sense.

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:20 PM)

To bad he didn’t see us as more important - this would be much better with graphs
Talk about SEEDs

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:20 PM)

@Kurt yaaaay, yes indeed. thank goodness - women

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

The chain reaction of climate catastrophe will come to an end when we have conditions similar to those on Mars. Mars is not habitable.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

BS: target financial sector first if you can change the way the finance works it affects the way biz/economy works, Monetary is like the base layer of financial instruments, but if alter money layer everything else will change, target money layer all else falls into place, Alteredstates.money (?) website new, take old wisdom hybridize them with tech to decentralize money systems,

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

@Kathryn - he gave us his all!!! I loved it - yes come back!!!

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

Dear  Chat PEOPLE,  panelists, too @ Kat Haber - Please join us. Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting 30 minutes after this session closes. Please write to me if you would like to participate (even if you can't join us today) I have also created an email list for us to interact without being on at the same time. stan@communitymagic.org

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

Please xxx

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:21 PM)

Anne-Marie - wonderfull to see you!!!

From Raquel Torrent to All panelists and other attendees: (12:23 PM)

Dear friends, unfortunately, it seems that I cannot keep on listening and sharing any more until this HR Zoom problem gets solved !!! Bye then as my telephone is on fire :-( I send you many blessings and hoping you have great so from now on that I would not be able to be with you until this "strange" occurrence it's solved!!!

From Marilyn Hamilton to All panelists and other attendees: (12:23 PM)

A-M working for higher purpose

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:23 PM)

@RAquel, we love you and hope you can get the issue settled rapidly.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:23 PM)

@Brett - see @Stan re meeting afterwards (Oh no - I'll be there for two mins - oops) - but - the next steps Gosh, time flies so fast

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:23 PM)

Hope it is solved soon Raquel....you are issed.
missed

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:24 PM)

@Raquel - can you maybe do the little zoom with Stan later? Maybe?

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:25 PM)

Good luck, Raquel.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:25 PM)

Agree Anne Marie.

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:25 PM)

12 year olds could be consulted… “When it’s right, make it easy. When it’s wrong, make it obvious.”  ~ Maureen Hoyt

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:25 PM)

Anne-Marie Voorhoeve: (@Stanley will email you.) Multi-stake holders for a higher purpose, many are working on this simultaneously Ervin Laszlo July 1-HR?  City/ecoregions play a vital role, Cities transformers for young people to come to the table their view that would work for them, sessions, Kate Raworth donut economy, their voice in the design of the cities, enhance their contribution/agency/ownership (PUT YOUTH ON BOARDS/GOVS/SCHOOL DECISIONS/FAITH PLACES?)

From Paul Coleman to All panelists and other attendees: (12:26 PM)

Bretts website. https://alteredstatesof.money/

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:26 PM)

@Anne-Marie - So lovely to hear your children asking for the wisdom of the elders (maybe) too!!! We MUST work together - young and old!!
Thanks@Paul

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:27 PM)

Thanks Anne-Marie too

From Marilyn Hamilton to All panelists and other attendees: (12:28 PM)

A-M - how to collaborate - you are a meshworker extraordinaire - to help move into collaboration

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:29 PM)

@Eduardo, Why do you need permission? You are the coordinator of this day. With plenty of time.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:29 PM)

christian, maybe record your talk and Her can post it for us.
I’d like to hear it properly.

From Hilary Van Welter to All panelists and other attendees: (12:30 PM)

@Anne-Marie-So great to see you here! It is time to bring those who have felt invisible into the dialogue and imagine the new tools and ways that can be developed to co-create. Inside and out!

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:30 PM)

Where can we learn more about the democracy game that Christian introduced?

From alan laubsch to All panelists and other attendees: (12:30 PM)

Brilliant program today, thank you!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:31 PM)

A bold idea to replace politicians  César Hidalgo’s TedTalk has a radical suggestion for fixing our broken political system: automate it! In this provocative talk, he outlines a bold idea to bypass politicians by empowering citizens to create personalized AI representatives that participate directly in democratic decisions. Explore a new way to make collective decisions and expand your understanding of democracy. https://www.ted.com/talks/cesar_hidalgo_a_bold_idea_to_replace_politicians#t-776285

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:32 PM)

please record your words & slide!

From Beth Brownfield to All panelists and other attendees: (12:33 PM)

-maybe this is the link to democracy game https://www.positech.co.uk/democracy3/

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:33 PM)

Agree! I want to be able to hear Christian’s talk in full

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:33 PM)

Yes, anne Marie, September Agenda along with follow up review on concrete changes that are occuring i.e. is genuine listening taking place? Is there demonstration of an awareness that the 'old' system is not working.

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:33 PM)

Can we see them all together? Please xx

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:33 PM)

@ Beth Thank you!!!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:34 PM)

Thanks xxx

From Kathryn Alexander, MA to All panelists and other attendees: (12:34 PM)

talk with you all tomorrow. bye

From Nirmalan Dhas to All panelists and other attendees: (12:35 PM)

It is the FIRST task to be addressed

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:35 PM)

bye Kathryn

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:35 PM)

So true John.

From Nirmalan Dhas to All panelists and other attendees: (12:35 PM)

And unfortunately it is being ignored

From Luis Camargo to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

+1 John!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

@Anne Marie, I’d love to talk with you about the younger ages than 20-30 year olds. The younger one’s ineed to be included. Their wisdom may be tapped. Let’s examine our unexamined assumption and beliefs!

From Nirmalan Dhas to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

And the outcome is that this has become an interesting game of a few very exclusive people who have the good fortune to have some source of income that allows them to engage in this exercise…

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

SLIDES: Mag. Christian Felber wuw.ecogood.org 
TAPAS better than TINA 
Social and Solidary Economy 
Doughnut Economics 
Blue / Circular / Post-growth Economy 
Buenvivir / National Happiness / Convivialism 
Fair Trade, Ethical Banking, Social Business 
Commons 
Economy for the Common Good 
---------------
ECG. holistic alternative 
(interlocking circles)
1. Theory of change (Innovation) 
2. Movement (Action) 
3. Democratic Process (Impact)
SLIDE

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

System change? 
(Impacting on the Global Economy)
Value system *
Narrative ("Free market economy") 
Scientific paradigm 
Leqal framework *
Public institutions 
Market forces
Private organizations 
Spiritual awareness 
------------------------------
The current "system"? 
1. Narrative: Markets are efficient & self-regulating 
2. Value system: Egoism, competition, GDP growth 
3.  Science: Neoclassical Economics ("Equilibrium Theory") 
4. Leqal framework: markets, private property, free trade 
5. Public instutions: WTO, IMF, BIS, G20, . ...
6. Market forces: profit orientation, competition, growth ...
7. Private organizations: Black Rock, Amazon, Bayer,...

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:36 PM)

If anyone is interested in systematically spreading this simple truth, that only in this gigantic transfer of the world organization via the monetary world system to prepared networking, as a basis and a starting point for an emergency brake and a radical restructuring of the economy comparable to world wartime could we possibly still achieve survival - even if it has not been widely accepted so far, well, the realization comes after the collapses, when everyone runs around like startled chickens.
Anyhow, my e-mail address for this would be [jochenkik@t-online] or 'Jaes De' [https://www.facebook.com/jaes7777] on Facebook.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:38 PM)

JF: Derivative-eXtreme Xtraction of finance before it was a dirty word, how do youth get involved-no easy answer challenge to keep alive while transitioning to new current 20-30 year olds can not find ways to have work in this area, next gen get involved even if not full time day jobs, need RCNA hub in the Nordics, learning to learn together and sharing instead of reading books, idea validated by existing, in field, not easy, not fast, important first principles, constraints of planetary boundaries and remove Exponential growth it is a conundrum, hope of regenerative process of living systems hope but not currently seen, edge effect between different systems unlock value, need to do work in alignment with living systems can not yet see because we are locked in old paradigm,

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:38 PM)

Sorry Christian

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

Dear  Chat PEOPLE,  panelists, too @ Kat Haber - Please join us. Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting 30 minutes after this session closes. Please write to me if you would like to participate (even if you can't join us today) I have also created an email list for us to interact without being on at the same time. stan@communitymagic.org

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

I like rescheduling

From Yasmina Groenstein to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

Yes!!!!

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

please reschedule Christian!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

CF: collaboration, rescheduled out in the mountains! Reconnectivity with sketchy internet?

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

Yes Christian,try try try again...next time.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

thanks for the effort Christian.

From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz to All panelists and other attendees: (12:39 PM)

PLEASE come back Christian!  I loved everything I could hear.

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:40 PM)

Thanks Stanley, will email you.

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:41 PM)

KM: transition from fringed of theory to mainstream conversation of value creation sustainably, much work moving forward taking down the complexity of this, 200 sites globally to replicate this approach, local value creation into a suitcase manual (TOOLKIT) locals policy makers can bridge the journification of the playground for a greater whole, mainstreaming, not totally alien any longer, Now a bit of pleasure of being mainstreamed now

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:41 PM)

I’ver already sent off information on Donut Econ to San Fernando mayor and city council,, my od home town. Next is Los Angeles. Any help to get this happening, call me. :)

From Marilyn Hamilton to All panelists and other attendees: (12:41 PM)

@Kristian @Bert-Ola so can identify with labouring/playing on the edges for decades - something major is shifting now

From Nirmalan Dhas to All panelists and other attendees: (12:42 PM)

Offer them attractive opportunities to make “Profit” that does not compromise the planet

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:43 PM)

yes Bert-Ola!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:44 PM)

B-OB: organize weaving, fringes  of new economy how do we get the traditional actors on board with all this chaotic emergent crypto currencies, crowdfunding (FOR THOSE NOT HAVING ACCESS, THESE ARE THEIR ONYL TOOLS) connect resources with frameworks knowing if navigating in right direction? learn from each other, what we do not yet have is what is happening in Asia/Africa broader view into this conversation, much potential of flows of energy and potential

From Beth Brownfield to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

I bought 5 books Doughnut Eco and making an appointment with Bellingham, WA mayor and Exec Director of Whatcom Co.  Introducing it also to my local Unitarian Universalist congregation

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

B-OB:  Let our own heart-intelligence show us the way

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

link to September event please!

From CJ to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

love it

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

A-MV: connect to life force, not hiding from pain/truth without it being silenced, shared with larger groups of people without closing our heart/intelligence show us the way, in broader and personal communities, show up in September with broader mapped tracked working together with larger groups that matters

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

Gosh. Had to leave for a min and - come back to Anne-Marie and JOY!! Yes. and that's what we share - all the way through HR - Heart is the answer xxx

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:45 PM)

One more step, open the communication with that heart. Deep listening,

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:46 PM)

Yes @Kurt

From Cheryl Ritenbaugh to All panelists and other attendees: (12:46 PM)

@ Beth Brownfield — from a Mpls UU — can I contact you?

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:46 PM)

Like that Nimalan...greater change can be enticed with 'honey' rather than vinegar.

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:46 PM)

Listening to the heart each day.......

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:46 PM)

Yes, we as humanity have to get to the core of the problem, which is finally the monetary world system which leaves no one free from the shackles on the stake of the blazing pyre, and we have to get to the core of the solution, that we, for the first time in human history don't need them any more, that we could organise ourselves as one world completely new via networking (in all its meanings)!!

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:47 PM)

Deal with 'on the ground' yes

From Beth Brownfield to All panelists and other attendees: (12:47 PM)

@ cheryl bethbrownf aol 30 years in Mpls

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:47 PM)

Listening to the Heart each day along with the concrete steps to ensure change.

From Marilyn Hamilton to All panelists and other attendees: (12:47 PM)

Just left Findhorn Roots of Tomorrow Summit - theme today was Work is Love in Action - core to manifesting new /regenerative economy

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:48 PM)

BS: Sufers great at riding waves, but do not know where those waves come from, perhaps from pal tectonic shifts, riding tremors but do not understand what is going being the scenes, anxiety causing, not much news, but at the base layers, monetary system, meditate on money, many charlatans, to answer this question. wits about us in historical fear mongers, fundamentally ambiguous, currency design (TRUST?) many working on it need support, by trying out their projects when building alternative forms of monetary systems and no one wants use them

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:48 PM)

That is the dream Marilyn..." work is Love in action".

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:48 PM)

no dream -

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:48 PM)

The world's best explanation of MONEY is here: The author, Jacques S. Jaikaran, M.D. offers a very good defense of Modern Monetary Theory in his book "Debt Virus." See page 168, where the author states plainly that "What we need to solve our cyclical problems such as inflation and recession is a metered amount of debt-free money injected into the economy. This money will compensate for the continuous withdrawal of money from the economy by the private sector debt service on its borrowings."

From Anne-Marie Voorhoeve to All panelists and other attendees: (12:49 PM)

Humanity Rising ongoing
UP (Unity + Peace) Convergence September 11-18  #unitetheworld 
Peace Weekend September 19-20-21 
Youth Assembly: from Youth Island the voices of youth will be collected from  96 cities around the world on September 19-20 and presented to the UN on21st 

https://peaceweekend.com/      https://www.peaceday2020.com/

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:49 PM)

Wonderfu;, ED!
Chop wood, carry water ............

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:49 PM)

Thanks A-M

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:50 PM)

@Jane, Karma Yoga means union through unattached action or doing the needful. There is no work, as we know it for a Karma Yogin. Everything is done without ego attachment. All actions will bear fruit whether we are concerned over the result or not. Sharing the Love… :) Love all of you. :)

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:50 PM)

Monetary means can't be controlled !!!
They control us and did it from the very beginning of their usage a couple of thousand years ago !! Now, within the monetary system no survival is possible!!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:51 PM)

Yes Kurt do it anyway so long as it is for the good of all .

From Luis Camargo to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

redefine the narratives of success and wealth to wellbeing and system health

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

Non attachemnt to the outcome however urgent it seems.

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

https://www.ecogood.org/what-is-ecg/theory-behind-ecg/

From Victoria Schwarz Schwarz to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

From the Big ILLUSION to reality.  So many are swimming in debt, slaves to debt, I was once there and now I am free, gracias a Dios!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

As we said in the 60’s PEOP[LE POWER, not force.

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

It’s not my way - it’s the High Way!

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:52 PM)

EM: implementation side, sometimes feeling alone to change an entire country, power groups fighting change, bring all this to the community/people/bioregional level, govs fade and not needed as functioning now, in US current conditions! simple language Xamples of implementation, cryptocurrency mixed, unless people use will not make a difference, not about $ but entire system, brought up with malls/spending/systems, taught people tot age care of nature, more nature takes care of itself, for us to survive we need nature to function, plant a tree, recycle a plastic water bottle insufficient! people think they are successful for paying monthly fees and driving a luxury car not really successful, need to reverse with spiritual and community level, how do we get to this scale of community, collaboration, empowerment, not in a commonly understood language by policy makers/farmer/mom? not from UN/govs/corps/ FROM WE THE PEOPLE! bring it down to understandable levels, true demo sites where people can learn indeed how

From Leo Jacoby to All panelists and other attendees: (12:54 PM)

Regenerative economics, once marginal, now moving into the mainstream

From Me to All panelists and other attendees: (12:54 PM)

GREAT Book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1675486.Debt_Virus

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:54 PM)

Oh My Jim the  implementation of the NEW is where we are now.

From SUZANNAH BEECHWOOD-HUNT to All panelists and other attendees: (12:54 PM)

I just rememberd Paul Hawken's book: Power, not Force.
Oh yes, Jim!

From Marilyn Hamilton to All panelists and other attendees: (12:55 PM)

innovation is at the edges

From Shannon McArthur to All panelists and other attendees: (12:55 PM)

RADICALLY COLLABORATIVE!!

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:55 PM)

Baby steps....end up being giant steps in this 'new normal'

From Anne-Marie Voorhoeve to All panelists and other attendees: (12:55 PM)

please feel free to reach out 
anne-marie@thehaguecenter.org

From Diane Skidmore to All panelists and other attendees: (12:55 PM)

One last comment - gotta go. We are People We come From and with  LOVE!!! Thank you everybody xxx

From Kat Haber to All panelists and other attendees: (12:56 PM)

JG: KM is making a point years ago these thinking systems were on the margins, now its obvious to us all that moving into the mainstream we are in the in-between moment, collapse of current elites/institutions will not solve this DIFFERENT THINKING REQUIRED! coming from different places, cities/countries beginning to bite the bullet mainstreaming what once was idealistic never, never land, must come from people demanding it, each one of us has to step into a differently fated EARTH with radical collaboration (why I scribe when I can to serve these important conversations) WE are so grateful for all of these differently thinking challengers, getting us outside of our boxed in ways of living!

From Cheryl Ritenbaugh to All panelists and other attendees: (12:56 PM)

@ bethbrown:  LOL!  wonderful ideas here.  US needs them badly!

From Kurt Krueger to All panelists and other attendees: (12:56 PM)

Love you guys. Thanks for your Love. Please feel free to connect with the “After party that Stanley has prompted. Love to dialog with you.

From Luis Camargo to All panelists and other attendees: (12:56 PM)

KUDOS Eduard!!!

From Yasmina Groenstein to All panelists and other attendees: (12:56 PM)

🙏❤

From Jane to All panelists and other attendees: (12:57 PM)

Blessings to you all

From Teo John to All panelists and other attendees: (12:57 PM)

Thanks.

From Kate Hansen Hansen to All panelists and other attendees: (12:58 PM)

Thank you!

From Jochen (Jea) Kik to All panelists and other attendees: (12:58 PM)

https://wechange.de/project/global-alliance-pro-life-survival/