12:35:19 From franka strietzel : Some of the poem by Thich Nhat Hanh: Be yourself. Life is precious as it is. All the elements for your happiness are already here. There is no need to run, strive, search, or struggle. Just be. Just being in the moment in this place is the deepest practice of meditation. Most people cannot believe that just walking as though you have nowhere to go is enough. They think that striving and competing are normal and necessary. Try practicing aimlessness for just five minutes,and you will see how happy you are during those five minutes.” “People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk either on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth. Every day we are engaged in a miracle which we don't even recognize: a blue sky, white clouds, green leaves, the black, curious eyes of a child—our own two eyes. All is a miracle.” ― Thich Nhat Hanh 12:36:02 From lesleysouthwick-trask : Thanks Franka <3 12:41:19 From Daniel : David S would like to hear more about the archetype 12:42:19 From Stanley Pokras : David, you can write to our email list chatpeople@communitymagic.org 12:45:50 From Daniel : loosing its livingness, beautiful 12:47:13 From Stanley Pokras : NEW ChatPeople - Write to our email list to be added. chatpeople@communitymagic.org or write to me to add you stan@communitymagic.org 12:49:42 From Stanley Pokras : Art doesn't just predict the future. Art Creates the future. 12:51:38 From Bruce Schuman : "man's inhumanity to man...." 12:52:32 From Daniel : we are creating the future in every moment 12:53:55 From Diane Skidmore : The river is deep. The river of despair is only as deep as the river of joy - it's the same river. We need both!! 12:55:28 From Karen Ball : They also share the same core: compassion 12:55:58 From Daniel : a unification theory Bruce - lovely collective 12:56:35 From Liliane Mavridara : We are at the right place at the right time. 12:57:23 From Daniel : acknowledgement to Stan 12:57:27 From David S : Yes Bruce, a powerful archetype is activating in this era. It is multivalent, creative for some, fearsome for others… David Stoney 13:00:48 From Diane Skidmore : @Karen - yes!! And along with Consciousness...…. we can progress 13:00:52 From Bruce Schuman : World Scripture - a big container http://origin.org/ucs/ws/ws.cfm 13:03:31 From David S : Here’s the message I sent to the HR Chat I’ll send copies of the post to chatpeople@communitymagic.org… 13:03:57 From David S : Oops, here: Thank you, Richard, for specifically bringing up the importance of understanding trauma. Our species has gone through at least 6 prolonged periods of trauma in the last million years of evolution. These dark nights occurred when Nature blew her icy breath on the world, creating cold, dry, extinction-threatening glacial phases of the earth’s climate cycling. Surely, our psyches have been affected by that difficult evolutionary past, but it was, I believe, part of the plan of universal creativity (oneness), i.e., it was a necessary part of our journey just like the dark night that is just now beginning. I’ll be posting a paper I recently wrote later today. It suggests a frame/story that anyone with ears to hear and eyes to see can identify with (I think!). It’s titled Stages in the Evolution of Embodied Human Consciousness. Happy to answer questions… David Stoney - sstoney39@gmail.com 13:05:19 From Bruce Schuman : Link to the recent Humanity Rising webinar on Trump and the threat against democracy https://youtu.be/BO8-No4MB6A?t=1229 13:05:39 From Daniel : it is within you, it is a projected piece 13:06:12 From MSTi Virtual Office : Gotta run. I attended this Thich Nhat Hanh, August 29, 2007, accepting death as part of the circularity in Zen tradition. Good article see you later…. https://scholarworks.umb.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1248&context=humanarchitecture 13:06:30 From Bruce Schuman : oh, it's about Trump...… :) 13:07:31 From Liliane Mavridara : All next week is Biomimicry and Regenerative systems 13:08:13 From Liliane Mavridara : Whoever is not talking perhaps can be muted. 13:08:56 From Liliane Mavridara : Shannon, you came in at the best time! 13:11:04 From marciaraffstudio : me.too! 13:11:20 From marciaraffstudio : I came in late and missed it all 13:11:34 From Bruce Schuman : i want to hear Ina's idea again briefly….. 13:11:37 From Liliane Mavridara : Lesley, you may have to repeat it because many of use came after it. 13:11:45 From Liliane Mavridara : Ina's comment 13:11:48 From Ina Albert : Ina Albert Inaalbert@aol.com program suggestions for Love Lives Here in the Flathead Valley 13:13:38 From marciaraffstudio : I’d like to hear Ina’s idea, too. 13:13:45 From Bruce Schuman : rediscovery of the eternal..... 13:13:54 From Daniel : in truth, it is always new, every moment, every day 13:15:33 From Daniel : the shadow usually involves either violence or sex 13:16:06 From lesleysouthwick-trask : I am going to ask Ina to write up her idea and then we can respond to her 13:16:21 From Liliane Mavridara : sounds good 13:16:23 From marciaraffstudio : thanks Leslie 13:16:24 From Shannon McArthur : Born to adore Her, We will restore Her And we will discover through doing that work That the Hand of God -- Is Ours. 13:17:02 From David S : @Shannon - Very nice expression of our co-creative potential… David Stoney 13:17:45 From lesleysouthwick-trask : Beautiful Shannon 13:19:12 From Daniel : It is not what happened, it is how it lives in you 13:19:31 From Bruce Schuman : poisoning the earth -- is not a philosophical neutral thing..... we do need a moral/ethical value system that can help govern the earth. 13:19:33 From marciaraffstudio : Shannon, Nice idea and I love that it’s dramatic. 13:19:49 From Daniel : @bruce correct 13:20:49 From Daniel : the switch is the amygdala 13:21:39 From Diane Skidmore : Seems that default position for human beings is negative. So - the task of human beings is to rise above that default position! 13:22:17 From Bruce Schuman : the emerging new moral/ethical law -- imho -- is "the good of the whole" this is the key to "a world that works" 13:22:52 From Diane Skidmore : @Bruce yes, agree!! 13:23:55 From Infinite Life : @Bruce agree with you we cannot condone poisoning the earth or any other environment. It stems from intent and total selfishness and disregard for any other component of the universe. 13:24:31 From Bruce Schuman : and it is also a key to creating co-creative "harmony on earth" at large scale -- it runs on absolute common denominators..... (good of the whole) 13:25:45 From Bruce Schuman : @malini -- yes, insensitivity to the whole 13:26:03 From lesleysouthwick-trask : @daniel I agree that the retelling the story over and over keeps us in the story 13:27:15 From Shannon McArthur : g’mornin’ Kurt. 13:27:26 From Daniel : You can read the story of Siddartha, missing ceremony 13:27:59 From Infinite Life : is this hermen hess siddartha? 13:28:15 From Daniel : it is always about Trump, this is his playbook 13:28:32 From David S : Narada’s story about maya is very good. David Stoney 13:28:34 From Daniel : yes same story, it is an old story 13:28:44 From Daniel : yes maya 13:29:02 From Daniel : many beautiful stories, they have deep meaning, not just philosphy 13:29:45 From Daniel : I simplified the amygdala story 13:29:58 From Infinite Life : Daniel - I had the good fortune of reading herman hess Siddartha and Jonathan living stone seagull back to back. it was transformational. 13:30:31 From Daniel : I am always thinking, safety, protection, loving connection, soul connection, and moving the “other” forward 13:30:59 From Daniel : the siddartha archetype is told by many firesides 13:31:10 From Bruce Schuman : "the resonant circle" -- is the primal resonant container for collective human experience -- and it has rules that guard the wholeness and safety 13:31:16 From Daniel : grandmother to grandchildren 13:31:20 From Shannon McArthur : Daniel, who/what is “the Other”? Is it the You I speak to (the collective I) 13:31:46 From Daniel : the separation self, our personal story 13:33:45 From Diane Skidmore : So if one creates safety and safe spaces for others, it never occurs that one is not safe. And also, if one has managed to encourage others to have a voice, one kinda has no need to have a voice - because the whole is 'OK' 13:33:52 From Infinite Life : :The other: Khalil Gibran address this very beautifully. When you do not want to share - it the other, when you want to be specially identified then there is the other. and when you want to express compassion then you look for the other. That's one way. 13:33:59 From Bruce Schuman : identity defined in property -- that is a dangerous force -- "the west was won with barbed wire and gunfire" 13:34:00 From Shannon McArthur : Ah, I see - @Daniel, I think I refer to the “Other” as the small me… 13:34:39 From Daniel : the tiny tiny tiny me 13:35:04 From Liliane Mavridara : There is a beautiful book by David and Austin Perlmutter, Brain Wash, which explains the effect of social media/screen time, on the limbic/amygdala, etc. 13:35:05 From Shannon McArthur : the small me has the power of choice. 13:35:52 From Daniel : one of my patient, friend and teacher, wrote a book with David Perlmutter, Power up your Brain 13:36:08 From Daniel : be skeptical of your reality 13:37:21 From Karen Ball : totally agree. 13:40:15 From Daniel : @shannon 100%, which can be paralyzing to writing your gift 13:40:32 From Liliane Mavridara : Yes, Daniel 13:40:44 From Stanley Pokras To Ed Prinselaar(privately) : I'd like to hear your comments. I'll ask you to say something... 13:41:08 From Karen Ball : I think Thomas Merton is an example of reframing our knowledge and experience. 13:42:01 From Daniel : fortunately, we are in the river, Dao, and the critic is on the shore. I remember the Paris speech by Theodore Roosevelt 13:42:25 From marciaraffstudio : I’d like to play. 13:42:37 From Shannon McArthur : YES, Marcia! 13:42:55 From Daniel : I always up to play 13:43:03 From Shannon McArthur : Yay, Daniel!! 13:44:25 From Daniel : my daughter is biracial, so bright. We are deeply connected. She has a project on race and currently identification. 13:45:21 From Daniel : which has gone into covid zone 13:46:00 From Daniel : “dad you will never understand how it is to be bi-racial” 13:46:13 From Liliane Mavridara : :) 13:46:34 From Karen Ball : Liliane do you have ideas for living into spaces that allow everyone to feel loved, heard, and seen? 13:47:10 From Shannon McArthur : it is hard to rise above the “goblin mud” that holds us back… the small me counselling safety. 13:48:30 From Liliane Mavridara : Yes, and at the same time everything is a practice and exploration. 13:48:55 From Liliane Mavridara : Happy to talk and explore further Karen. 13:50:09 From Liliane Mavridara : Emotions? what emotions? 13:52:09 From Daniel : bravo Ed, it is you 13:52:14 From Daniel : us 13:52:27 From Daniel : Ed where are you from? 13:52:37 From marciaraffstudio : Daniel, I’d like to know what it means to be bi racial? 13:53:37 From Daniel : Bi-racial means from at least two very different racial and cultural brreakground in a particular community. It is interesting to which race the individual and how they identify 13:54:29 From lesleysouthwick-trask : eprins@tbaytel.net 13:54:33 From Karen Ball : Has HR ever had Father Richard Rohr speak? 13:54:49 From Liliane Mavridara : no 13:55:26 From Daniel : I had a patent, Father Von Bremen who taught re-spiritualization for priests, mostly in europe. I operated on him about 35 years ago, without charge. He regularly, until recently, would write me to thank me 13:55:29 From Karen Ball : I think you could speak to Ed's suggestion. Rohr wrote a book called the Universal Christ. 13:56:32 From marciaraffstudio : I wasn’t clear. Sorry. I was thinking about what your daughter said..that you’d never understand what means to be bi racial…and I’d like to know what she means? How it affects her life? 13:57:52 From Daniel : It was a point in time, not for me to not support her. We are all multi racial. 13:57:56 From Daniel : hast manana 13:58:00 From Daniel : hasta 13:58:05 From Daniel : what debate? 13:58:16 From Daniel : I get my news here 13:58:30 From Daniel : not fox news 14:00:05 From Daniel : Thank you all, very rich discussions, as expected. Namah 14:01:10 From Daniel : Daughters and sons have your deep underbelly 14:01:13 From Shannon McArthur To Stanley Pokras(privately) : could you please leave the Room open for Lesley and I to talk? 14:01:30 From Daniel : your body does lie, typically 14:01:32 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur(privately) : This room is always open. 14:01:33 From Daniel : with exceptions 14:01:37 From marciaraffstudio : thank you Lesley 14:01:46 From Daniel : thank you lesley 14:01:59 From Shannon McArthur To Stanley Pokras(privately) : when you close it closes - perhaps give me co-host? 14:02:26 From Daniel : the moon comes in through the window not the door, is it true? 14:02:28 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur(privately) : I can leave and make you host as I leave. 14:02:40 From Daniel : thank you Ed 14:02:41 From marciaraffstudio : thank you Ed 14:03:20 From marciaraffstudio : bye for noe stan