12:18:56 From Infinite Life : Kindness is helpfulness in action. 12:19:47 From Infinite Life To Stanley Pokras(privately) : why is zoom asking me to ask the host to record? 12:20:40 From Infinite Life To Stanley Pokras(privately) : could I have pressed a button by mistake. 12:21:32 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada : g’mornin’ Daniel! 12:22:02 From Stanley Pokras : Maliki, recording is ON... I wonder if the message you saw means that you could record too...? I'm going to see. 12:23:06 From Daniel Rieders, MD : g morning 12:23:32 From Infinite Life : Can some one please explain what is intergeneration trauma . Ive heard the term repeatedly but don't know what it really means. 12:23:52 From Stanley Pokras : Malini, I just gave you permission to record. I didn't know that it would be possible for more than one of us to record. 12:24:41 From Infinite Life To Stanley Pokras(privately) : That's Ok stan I don't want to record. I was just thrown when I saw that popup, 12:24:46 From marciaraffstudio : never heard o fit 12:24:56 From Daniel Rieders, MD : it is also epigenetic 12:25:59 From Stanley Pokras To Infinite Life(privately) : No problem. I just learned that it's possible for more than one recording to be made... Thank you for that accidental learning. 12:27:47 From Infinite Life : How is it different from intergenerational conditioning which forms part of social conditioning of a group or community. 12:27:58 From marciaraffstudio : what group does this constellation work? 12:28:56 From Infinite Life : what about free choice. 12:29:02 From Infinite Life : free will. 12:30:01 From Diane Skidmore : @Malini - Sometimes our free will is not enough if our DNA has some experience that we know no t where it came from 12:32:50 From sally annett : Will you record it for us? 12:33:41 From Daniel Rieders, MD : Daniel ZOOM -PST (UTC -8) https://zoom.us/j/9881270481 988 127 0481 Password 007 12:34:00 From Daniel Rieders, MD : 7 geenratins 12:34:04 From Daniel Rieders, MD : generations 12:34:36 From Daniel Rieders, MD : also epigenetic, the histones etc 12:35:03 From Daniel Rieders, MD : 7 generations x 25 years = 175 years 12:35:26 From marciaraffstudio : what time on the 10th? 12:36:33 From Stanley Pokras : Would anyone like to see what happens when you initiate recording, now that I know that I can approve participants to make recordings? 12:37:18 From Kurt Krueger : Dan, Can my sweet wife and best friend participate on Saturday? We’d be on my. Laptop? 12:37:44 From Daniel Rieders, MD : sure Kurt, that would be lovely 12:38:45 From Leo Jacoby : If we are advised to make public policy for the common good and the next seven generations, it is also suggested that we review our personal history the past seven generations. That gives us a 400 year swath of history as context for our actions today. 12:38:47 From lesleysouthwick-trask : @marcia - same time as HR 12:39:55 From lesleysouthwick-trask : @stan - sure I would 12:40:53 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada : @stan - i would too, but not to interrupt here/now 12:40:56 From Daniel Rieders, MD : @Leo stupendous 12:41:47 From Daniel Rieders, MD : trauma is not what happened, it is how it lives in you 12:41:48 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur - BC Canada(privately) : Ok, I set you to be able to record. 12:43:02 From Stanley Pokras : I have given Shannon permission to record. 12:43:33 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada To Stanley Pokras(privately) : not that i’m going to record atm… you’ve already got that covered 12:44:15 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur - BC Canada(privately) : Just capture a small bit, just to learn the process. 12:44:19 From sally annett : tell us Dianne please :) 12:49:56 From Leo Jacoby : I keep thinking from the first HR presentation today of Aaron (?) fishing on the river and being confronted by a maga fellow citizen (if I heard that right this morning.) What if they had opportunity (over a beer?) to compare their generational stories of trauma and how their values were shaped by parents, grandparents and beyond? 12:51:05 From Daniel Rieders, MD : @Leo I missed HR today 12:51:16 From marciaraffstudio : If he’s innocent, I dont understand why he wouldn’t defend himself. 12:52:06 From Daniel Rieders, MD : I refrain from defending myself, what is I defending 12:53:15 From Infinite Life : Innocnce and guilt are relative. depends who is looking at it from which point of view. what is common is the intent behind an action. 12:53:38 From Leo Jacoby : @Daniel I missed most of HR today, and came into this chat late, so I may be missing the gist of either conversation. 12:56:12 From sally annett : Deep listening creates spcae 12:56:23 From sally annett : space! 12:56:36 From Daniel Rieders : beautiful 12:56:47 From sally annett : My computer is going loopy loo again - apologies if I disappear 12:57:22 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada : sorry it’s loopy loo, Sally… hope you can stay! 12:57:36 From Daniel Rieders : @lesley bravo 12:58:10 From Daniel Rieders : it is not what happened, it is how it lives in you 13:01:29 From Daniel Rieders : BLM is collective trauma 13:01:55 From Diane Skidmore : Absolutely agree @Lesley!! 13:02:11 From Daniel Rieders : Your body never forgets 13:02:18 From Daniel Rieders : you do not forget 13:02:40 From Daniel Rieders : it takes energy to try to forget 13:03:06 From Leo Jacoby : @Daniel I like your reminder of collective: both the slave and the slave trader/"owner" are injured. 13:03:33 From Daniel Rieders : you are invited to digest life experience. refrain from spiritual and emotional vypass 13:03:38 From Infinite Life : Daniel it takes unconditional love to forget. 13:05:14 From Leo Jacoby : Is empathy the willingness to feel our collective trauma? 13:05:42 From Kurt Krueger : First Nations… included. However, their outlook is different cause of their heritage. :) 13:06:39 From Stanley Pokras : Here is the page in Wikidelphia about Black Quantum Futurism https://wikidelphia.org/Black_Quantum_Futurism 13:09:32 From Stanley Pokras : There are links under a heading "Get the Books." 13:09:58 From lesleysouthwick-trask : thanks Stan 13:11:11 From Leo Jacoby : "How are you?" / "Is the tribe well" 13:11:40 From Diane Skidmore : Thanks Leo!! 13:16:17 From Daniel Rieders : in my yoga training, ultimately it is stated that karma does not exist 13:16:52 From Leo Jacoby : ? Another opening query for conversation, "What land are you from?" 13:16:59 From Daniel Rieders : its a shaktipot transmission lineage 13:18:07 From Kurt Krueger : Dan, Yes, Kashmir Shaivism/Tantrik teaching… 13:18:30 From sally annett : the lords of charm are outside the laws of time and life an death in many texts (I think( x 13:18:48 From Kurt Krueger : It’s my sions, birthday. I going. 13:18:58 From Kurt Krueger : CU soon 13:19:05 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada : happy birthday, kurt’s son!! 13:19:30 From lesleysouthwick-trask : Blessings for your surgery and happy birthday papa 13:20:25 From Daniel Rieders : @malini karmic! 13:20:43 From Daniel Rieders : kartik 13:21:02 From Daniel Rieders : the spear of kartik 13:21:26 From Shannon McArthur - BC Canada : I think intergenerational trauma is supported by culture but is more than that. 13:21:43 From Daniel Rieders : twinkle twinkle little star. what you say is what you are 13:23:52 From marciaraffstudio : she froze 13:29:49 From marciaraffstudio : thank you all 13:29:55 From marciaraffstudio : see you tomorow