00:30:59 Daniel: good to differentiate between past lives and family of origin ancestry lineage past lives 00:31:27 franka strietzel: „old soul“ 00:32:41 Daniel: another aspect to look at is, culture, a good description in “culture code” Robitaille 00:34:13 Daniel: US is an adolescent, and Canada. Other cultures, nations, and nations are much more magture 00:43:51 Daniel: likewise, what is the value of enneagram 00:43:55 Daniel: ? 00:47:21 Karen Ball: Can you send us this powerpoint? 00:48:22 Daniel: it is a PDF, not powerpoint 00:50:57 Daniel: I like the black swan artchetype 00:51:34 Lesley Southwick-Trask: I love the black swan! 00:51:35 Kurt Krueger: Dan, always an outlier… :) 00:52:15 Daniel: so for this work, do we help others to move through one stage to the more advanced archetype? 00:53:17 Daniel: and Kurt, a gift 00:54:46 Kurt Krueger: Dan, you’ve done ayasca, haven’t you…. Ha. 01:00:38 tahdiblackstone: This is brilliant - what’s tragic is how few people actually know who they are and know their own needs - The Birkman Profile is a terrific tool to show each their own needs, gifts and who they are with each other! What a fit… 01:11:57 Daniel: reminds me of Simon Sineck 01:12:30 Daniel: why do you ask? not for about a decade 01:13:37 Kurt Krueger: Simply joking…seeing “a gift”. :) 01:14:24 Daniel: It has to do with being right and wrong in the world. finding why something is right, has wisdom, is being right in the woorld 01:14:58 Daniel: and wed progress as humans, when we go into the pain areas, as well as the success areas. 01:15:31 Daniel: we ash humans 01:15:39 Daniel: as humans 01:16:17 Daniel: and working the why with people, Viktor Frankel, his paradigm is based upon value of human suffering 01:16:35 Daniel: its fun to work where the juice is 01:16:44 Lesley Southwick-Trask: we can change our implicit bias 01:16:58 Daniel: And what are you protecting 01:17:01 Daniel: ? 01:24:57 David Stoney: Leisure is the mother of philosophy, someone said… 01:28:25 Daniel: in marriage loyalty, strength, Honor, standards of belonging and tradition have high value, specifically 01:29:08 Daniel: how true David, unless you are a healer, then philosophy is a requisite tool, so not really philosphy 01:31:27 David Stoney: How about “Understanding is the recognition of the I in the thou? 01:35:07 David Stoney: Our circle of care is indeed larger, but it is not careful 01:38:35 Shannon McArthur: We are the gardener(s) 01:38:58 Shannon McArthur: we tend the needs of our Mother 01:41:34 Kurt Krueger: Sounds like Sheri Mitchel, 01:41:35 Shannon McArthur: I love the thrill of living!! 01:41:58 Daniel: I love this presentation, BRILLIANT, bravo bravo bravo 01:42:16 Karen Ball: Agreed Daniel 01:42:34 David Stoney: Ditto, Daniel 01:42:54 Daniel: i diffeentiate ethics from morals 01:44:34 Leo Jacoby: https://philosophynow.org/issues/81/A_Plea_For_The_Philosophy_of_Leisure Alex Sager (2010) thinks deeply about what to do with his free time. The philosophy of leisure encourages us to turn our attention from morality to ethics. ‘Morality’ refers to the sub-branch of ethics that deals with obligation – what you must do . ‘Ethics’ more broadly conceived, inquires into the nature of the good life. 01:44:56 Daniel: ethics are universal, morals are local depending on tribe 01:48:19 Lesley Southwick-Trask: ethics in anthropology relate to alignment with cultural norms 01:49:11 sallyannett: judgement-and-mercy-balanced-by-the-self 01:49:11 David Stoney: Thanks Leo, I love your library 01:51:38 David Stoney: Re “Good life:” Hippolytus: “There is one thing alone that stands the brunt of life throughout its course: a quiet conscience.” 01:56:18 Daniel: we discussed suffering in the chat, go look back at the chat 01:56:33 sallyannett: my-brother-is-obsessed-with-it 01:58:02 David Stoney: Example is not the best way to influence others, it is the only way - Albert Schwietzer 02:06:03 David Stoney: I have another meeting in 5 minutes. This has been great, Kathryn. My average values for the 3 Value Systems were PVS = 3.4; EVS = 3.8; RVS = 4.2 (3.4). Two values for RVS depending on looking personally or collectively for concern for future. Love, wholeness, courage and curiosity to all… 02:06:44 Leo Jacoby: DAVID: re. leisure: ttps://www.stthomas.edu/media/catholicstudies/center/ryan/curriculumdevelopment/theologicalethics/NaughtonTeachingNote.pdf 02:07:39 Kurt Krueger: David, Enjoy your day, friend. 02:07:52 Julie Wolf: Stan YES they DO Resinate!!! 02:09:27 Daniel: agree Stan, we need to go upstream and work therew 02:09:56 sallyannett: declaration-of-human-rights 02:10:19 Julie Wolf: rights of ALL Life 02:10:51 Daniel: the fruit of our work reside in suffering 02:11:07 Daniel: light of consciousness 02:14:18 franka strietzel: the child trafficker plays a valuable part? 02:14:51 Kurt Krueger: Yes, To Gert humanity to prevent this. 02:15:09 Daniel: talk to us about Wednesday 02:15:33 Marcia Raff: thanks for asking 02:17:07 tahdiblackstone: I love your concerto analogy - it is like there would be no life - no food, no animals, humans etc - except for 4 ingredients…the sun, rain, soil and earthworms who oxygenate the soil… the worm is as important as the sun?!!! Yes! We each, however tiny, is as important as the sun as long as we give whatever we have to give! 02:17:55 Shannon McArthur: ty Tahdia, yes. The earthworm is one of my totems ;) 02:17:56 Daniel: human trafficking is under recognized 02:20:39 Daniel: power - empower; healthy boundaries are all about respect 02:21:21 Daniel: as powerful, we need to be in right relationship to be safe and standing in purpose, right thinking, right loving and right action, known as AYNI 02:22:00 Daniel: influence requires resources and agency 02:23:52 Leo Jacoby: Kathryn: can you show again your penultimate slide summarizing Resilient Values? 02:24:33 Karen Ball: MLK statement: nonviolence or nonexistence resonates with me. 02:24:57 Kurt Krueger: Kathryn, Will you send your PDF o your presentation 02:25:21 Leo Jacoby: More on the side theme of leisure that David introduced: https://www.brainpickings.org/2015/08/10/leisure-the-basis-of-culture-josef-pieper/ 02:28:16 Daniel: this is so fun playing in this sand box with all of my BRILLIANT friends 02:28:19 sallyannett: fab-thank-you-kurt 02:28:47 Shannon McArthur: I feel the same, Daniel! 02:28:55 Daniel: We may want to consider the platinum rules, which has its issues also 02:29:05 Kurt Krueger: Welcome . Love ya, all :) 02:29:15 Shannon McArthur: Spirit brought it together in us… 02:32:26 sallyannett: and-that-is-where-stanleys-kindness-and-helpfullness 02:34:57 Daniel: Ego is our ally, as is identity 02:35:51 sallyannett: ego-is-our-foundation 02:36:28 sallyannett: identity-is-aseries-ofpyschological-constructs 02:40:07 Daniel: Makes sense while so many of us here, are SHAMANS & SHAMAMAS 02:43:15 sallyannett: i-would-like-to-do-this-session-please 02:43:37 Marcia Raff: most esoteric! 02:44:11 Kurt Krueger: We ALL can participate. We are a magical team. :) 02:44:39 sallyannett: thank-you-k-and-l 02:46:53 Marcia Raff: when was it sent..maybe I wasn’t on the list? 02:47:18 Daniel: I would need specific times to participate 02:48:32 Marcia Raff: so what’s happening next wednesday? 02:48:54 Shannon McArthur: Daniel, it is during the time that the AfterChat usually is... 02:49:00 sallyannett: brilliant-research 02:49:38 Daniel: thanks shannon, Ill block my time out, and participate if chosen 02:50:15 Shannon McArthur: Marcia, it is a “constellation” exercise to look at we do during Peace Week. More will be prrovided 02:50:38 Karen Ball: Hi Mr. Boots 02:51:00 sallyannett: and-audience-participation-lightingcandles-together 02:51:04 Shannon McArthur: Daniel, you have been selected to be part of this exercise. During the beginning it will be determined whether you are a representative or a witness. 02:51:13 Liliane Mavridara: Thank you Kathryn for the presentation today! Thank you guys, I am at my limits of attendance because of headache, and need to rest. See you next week, won't be able to attend Wednesday, I have prior commitment till 1:30 or so. 02:51:32 Shannon McArthur: Rest well Liliane, ty for being with us! 02:51:33 sallyannett: bye-and-hugs-liliane 02:51:59 Marcia Raff: Feel better Lilane! 02:53:04 Karen Ball: seed packets of peace 02:53:34 Marcia Raff: sounds fabulous!!! 02:54:07 Marcia Raff: Please send to me. 02:56:03 sallyannett: cool-hat-dan 02:57:38 Daniel: thanks sally, my head was a bit too chill 02:57:41 Daniel: hahaha 02:57:49 sallyannett: it-is-helpful-to-do-so- 02:58:53 Kurt Krueger: THANKS Kathryn - Loved your offering 02:58:57 Julie Wolf: do breakout rooms help? 02:59:33 sallyannett: yup-soundsgood 02:59:39 Shannon McArthur: Me too, Kathryn, thank you so very much! Very nicely woven and presented 03:01:06 Daniel: Shout Out to Kathryn. Thank You Kathryn. Today was fabulous. In gratitude 03:01:22 sallyannett: yes-thank-you-kathrynxxxxx 03:01:32 Karen Ball: Yes. Thank you Kathryn. I want a copy. 03:01:53 Marcia Raff: I, too, want to thank yo Kathryn! 03:01:58 tahdiblackstone: Sooooooo grateful for all this, loved it and love what you are doing - gotto run, am late, much love, put me on your list…*~* 03:02:03 Daniel: xxooooxx 03:02:20 Leo Jacoby: Kathryn: Gratias and Kudos 03:02:25 Kurt Krueger: Lets talk later. Thanks for coming 03:02:35 Kurt Krueger: Tahdi